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08-18-2016, 09:38 AM
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City: Ft Pierce
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Nordhavn salvage
Anyone hear of the salvage of a Norhavn 40 + at Reedy Island on the Delaware river?
The maritime company I work part time for was working on a 40+ Nordhavn that went aground on Reedy Island in the Delaware River.
Supposedly during the salvage of getting it off the beach/rocks, a large ship went by, waked it enough to refloat it momentarily and the second wake swamped it and sank it.
I haven't discussed it with any higher ups, just one of the salvage boat captains...was wondering if anyone knew the owner or had more info....
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08-18-2016, 09:50 AM
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Heard them on 13 asking for a slow bell but don't know if that was before or after.
Guess they hit one of the 4 major boat traps in that area.
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Irish Lady
1984 Monk 36 Hull #46
Currently in Cape May, NJ
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08-18-2016, 09:59 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by High Wire
Heard them on 13 asking for a slow bell but don't know if that was before or after.
Guess they hit one of the 4 major boat traps in that area.
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I would hope that pilots have a morning brief sheet and the salvors notified the USCG that would pass along to the pilots association.
Being a fly on the wall for this one.
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08-18-2016, 10:07 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by psneeld
I would hope that pilots have a morning brief sheet and the salvors notified the USCG that would pass along to the pilots association.
Being a fly on the wall for this one.
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I would guess that they do if it is known. Ships run on a "notice" program. IOW, a certain ship might require "10 minutes notice" in order to provide a slow bell. It takes them that long to slow down. If they are less than 10 minutes away when you tell them, it is too late. This is just what I have gleaned from a close friend who is a Houston Pilot.
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08-18-2016, 01:58 PM
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It was a 47, and they appear to have hit the Reedy Island Dyke/jetty. I'll pass on more when/if I hear, but for now the owners have asked for some space while they deal with the situation, so I actually know very little.
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08-18-2016, 03:31 PM
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For anyone planning to cruise through the Delaware River/C&D Canal area, (Chart 12311) here is a recap of the Big 4 in this thread Post #7.
http://www.trawlerforum.com/forums/s...nal-16514.html
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Irish Lady
1984 Monk 36 Hull #46
Currently in Cape May, NJ
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08-18-2016, 05:13 PM
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That is all so well marked and plotted on the charts.
It will be interesting to hear what happened.
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08-18-2016, 06:22 PM
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Sounds perfectly awful! And it's not at all difficult to find that jetty in awful ways. Easy to say, and true, that it's well charted and well marked. But take a hazy day... or night.
I learned to sail on my father's Flying Dutchman. We sailed out of a now-long-gone marina south of New Castle, DE, in the late '50's, early 60's. While bobbing around, becalmed, on the Delaware side of the jetty, which at half tide is partly visible and partly submerged, but at high tide is nearly completely submerged, we became aware of a power boat on the other side. He went north, then south and then north again. Finally, he saw us and drove over to us, asking, "Where's the jetty?" His face was something to see when we told him that he'd just crossed it.
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08-18-2016, 06:51 PM
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yep, the 60s and 70 are full of a bit bewildered boater stories...
But a Nordhavn in 2016 .....in the thickest fog, driving rain, honking winds should be able to hug the outside margin of the Delaware River channel with no problem unless there was a problem....not just simple navigation error.
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08-18-2016, 07:00 PM
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City: Steamboat Springs CO.
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Not to hijack this thread....but I have a related question...if a Nordhavn were to be swamped and sank ...say flooding the salon and everything below with sea water...is that salvageable/fixable to a reliable enough state for continued ocean crossings or to avoid mold production etc?
If the mods determine this question should be moved I will happily oblige a start another thread..
Thanks in advance
Ch
Ch
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08-18-2016, 07:06 PM
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anything is fixable....just how much?
How much to fix ?????.....not as good, OEM, or make it even better....
Buying it and fixing it so YOU trust it is one thing...selling it to someone else may be a trick.
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08-18-2016, 07:16 PM
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The owner just posted this to the NordhavnDreamers Yahoo list which is a public forum so I don't mind repeating it here. By all indications it was a simple navigation mistake/oversight, and a sobering and tragic reminder how easy it is to overlook something, and how disastrous the results can be. We all make mistakes, and usually get away with it. But not this time...
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It was our boat (N4748, Ghost Rider).
The event occurred last week, Monday, 08-Aug @ 1700 local time. Struck a submerged rock jetty just south of Reedy Island. Fought for about 16 hours to save her, but without success….she went down around 0900 the next morning after she was dislodged from the jetty by large wakes (big shipping lane nearby.) The hull survived the initial impact intact, but as the tide receded and she got rocked by large-ship wakes, eventually the strain was too much. Nobody seriously injured. She wasn’t raised until yesterday, was hauled out this morning. We spent all day today slogging through an amazing amount of mud trying to retrieve & clean what we can, will be doing same tomorrow at a minimum.
Eventually will post a full accounting for all to absorb with all the painful details. For now, however, we request some quiet and some space to deal with the aftermath. Thanks in advance for that.
Rick & Michelle Riordan
N4748 / Ghost Rider
Currently Salvaging in Leesburg, NJ
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08-18-2016, 07:18 PM
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I was thinking of this particular boat..... Plumbing failure sinks $4.5 million yacht in its slip | Soundings Online
Its supposedly done 20k cruising miles from Vancouver to Florida since being repaired.. and is now for sale....wondering if it would EVER really be reliable for a safe ocean crossing as I know little about salt water damage besides rusting or salt crusting (like on a fishtank). Does mold even grow in a saltwater environment?
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08-18-2016, 07:20 PM
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@Twisted tree..thats very sad....glad no one was harmed in the accident
Ch
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08-18-2016, 07:23 PM
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I know of two Nordhavn's that have gone down and subsequently returned to service.
One is AdWorld, a 56 motor sailor which was dropped when unloading from the delivery ship. It was totaled by the insurance company, and an enterprising Austrailian bought it and brought it back to life. The repair work was extensive, but I don't think he paid much of anything for it initially. It is in regular use in Mexico currently.
The other is one of the 75EYFs. After a faulty local repair in Mexico, it sank at the dock. I don't know if it was totaled by insurance, but someone somewhere, somehow brought it back to service and I believe it's cruising the east coast currently.
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08-18-2016, 07:24 PM
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Very humbling. And a humbling account! It will be interesting to see what happened. Accidents usually are never just one mistake...but a chain of mistakes. Much respect for these owners to post up and even sign their names claiming it! I hope the best for all involved and glad no one was injured.
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08-18-2016, 08:10 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Baker
Very humbling. And a humbling account! It will be interesting to see what happened. Accidents usually are never just one mistake...but a chain of mistakes. Much respect for these owners to post up and even sign their names claiming it! I hope the best for all involved and glad no one was injured.
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08-18-2016, 08:48 PM
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City: United States
Vessel Name: First Forty
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And the Nordhavn 40 that sunk up in Alaska,was recovered,rebuilt and is back cruising.
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08-18-2016, 09:40 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Reveille
And the Nordhavn 40 that sunk up in Alaska,was recovered,rebuilt and is back cruising.
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Ah, good point. I forgot about that one. And it even carries my name, so I should have remembered :-)
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08-19-2016, 12:26 AM
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@twistedtree...the pic I linked was that 75eyf...Melanie Jeanne I think the name was....now called Sockeye Blue and is currently in Florida though looking for its 4th owner since 2009 it seems.... :-(
Ch
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