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Old 05-15-2018, 08:10 AM   #21
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ok, quick question....
instead of radio headsets, why not just buy bluetooth sets to connect with your cell phone? When you are approaching the dock, just call your first mate on the phone and communicate that way.
And what if you need to communicate where you don't have cell service?
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There's no question that cellphone service is a concern for some, but not for me.
$15-20 each for a couple of bluetooth headsets and I'm good to go.
If something happens and the bluetooth won't work, we can always SPEAK LOUDER.
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There's no question that cellphone service is a concern for some, but not for me.
$15-20 each for a couple of bluetooth headsets and I'm good to go.
If something happens and the bluetooth won't work, we can always SPEAK LOUDER.
And your system fails you the one time you need it most. Also nice way to lose a cell phone overboard.
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ok, quick question....
instead of radio headsets, why not just buy bluetooth sets to connect with your cell phone? When you are approaching the dock, just call your first mate on the phone and communicate that way.
May work in the US but if you want to do that in, say, the Bahamas you will need to buy two SIMS and minutes.
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And your system fails you the one time you need it most. Also nice way to lose a cell phone overboard.
Yes, it could fail....about as often as a radio headset.
And as far as dropping the cellphone overboard, you don't even need to have the phone on your body. As long as it is close by, you are good to go. We could have both cell phones sitting at the helm and we will get good reception.

Menzies...I'm never leaving the Chesapeake Bay, so I don't have to worry about additional services as needed in the Bahamas.
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Not a fan of blue tooth because of syncing. Always on channel dedicated radio sets were what we used. I would prefer full duplex so one can talk over the other if necessary. I dont use voice activated or push to talk.
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We do use bluetooth, both in our cars and in the house. We have 4 wireless phones scattered around the house so we can answer the cell anywhere in the house and don't have to go chase it down when ringing.
Guys, I'm not putting a gun to anyone's head and saying you must use bluetooth when docking. I'm just asking a "what if" question and looking for a radio headset alternative.
It's cheap and reliable. Maybe if I was a world traveler and docking my boat every other day, I'd go with the radio headset, but for my limited needs, bluetooth sounds like a good way to go.
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Menzies...I'm never leaving the Chesapeake Bay,.
Wifey B: Wow. Never? The Delaware? NJ Coast? Virginia Cut to NC? Are you wearing an ankle bracelet?
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Wifey B: Wow. Never? The Delaware? NJ Coast? Virginia Cut to NC? Are you wearing an ankle bracelet?
We do a fair amount of traveling...plane, car, cruiseship. Been to a number of US states and have plans for more. As far as the boat goes, we are more than happy to stay in the bay.
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instead of radio headsets, why not just buy bluetooth sets to connect with your cell phone? .
That would certainly work but you don't have the use of one of your hands, Ditto, for the skipper. We've tried using the VHF radio on the bridge and the handheld for my wife but again, both hands are not available. SENA is the answer!
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That would certainly work but you don't have the use of one of your hands, Ditto, for the skipper.

What do you mean, you don't have use of one of your hands? Bluetooth is "HANDS FREE"
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This is a cheap bluetooth headset. $13. Completely hands free. You don't even have to have your phone in your pocket. As long as it is fairly close by, you are good to go.

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What do you mean, you don't have use of one of your hands? Bluetooth is "HANDS FREE"
True, the BlueTooth signal is hands free but the devise (cell phone, handheld, VHF Microphone, etc.) is not. Unless of course you have 2 Bluetooth head sets as do we.)
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ok, quick question....
instead of radio headsets, why not just buy bluetooth sets to connect with your cell phone? When you are approaching the dock, just call your first mate on the phone and communicate that way.
Two advantages of headsets v. phones:

1. In the Pacific Northwest, we have many places in northern waters where there are no cell signals.
2. Holding a cell phone while handling lines is difficult and phones don't swim well.

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True, the BlueTooth signal is hands free but the devise (cell phone, handheld, VHF Microphone, etc.) is not.
You put the cellphone in your pocket.
You put the cellphone on your helm dashboard.

IT IS NOT IN YOUR HAND
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cell phones are simplex, only one person can talk at a time. There may be times when you need to interrupt the other person, you need duplex to do that.
Blue tooth has sync problems at times. I favor a dedicated radio channel set.
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I'm beginning to think you guys have no concept of how bluetooth works with a cellphone.

THE PHONE IS NOT IN YOUR HAND...unless you want it to be.
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I'm beginning to think you guys have no concept of how bluetooth works with a cellphone.

IT IS NOT IN YOUR HAND...unless you want it to be.


We considered doing what you suggest. However, most inexpensive Bluetooth earbuds designed for phone use arenít great is noisy environments. Then there is the issue of ensuring that we have cell service (even a few places in Puget Sound there is no cell service).

The Sena headsets are designed for noisy environments and as long as they are charged, are not dependent on anything else. If you use two cell phones with two Bluetooth earpieces, you are dependent on 4 devices. The Sena headsets are hung over a light fixture in our pilothouse and are always available.

So your suggestion certainly works and likely may work great for your application. It just isnít the ideal solution for some of us in different situations.
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So your suggestion certainly works and likely may work great for your application. It just isnít the ideal solution for some of us in different situations.
And that is what I've been saying. For me, I think it would be a cheap, convenient solution. For a number of reasons, it is not the best way to go for everyone. Far from it.
Also, I would be using more of a headset. I do not like earbuds either.
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Sena. For us as relative newbies they are a God send. So much nicer than hand signals and yelling.

Bluetooth works from headset to cell phone in pocket. Cell phone in pocket calls cell phone in the other persons pocket. Their cell phone bluetooth's to their headset. That's bluetooth. Both hands free to get pinched in the windlass, drop the windlass bar/tool overboard, spray the mud onto the deck instead of overboard, flip the bird to the Captain, lunge grab at sunglasses that are falling into the water, whatever else is needed. We find lots of things to do with both hands.
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