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02-27-2014, 06:09 PM
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Senior Member
City: Victoria BC
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Originally Posted by RickB
Hmmmmm that kind of sounds like a lifestyle thing of the sort that disturbs the folks in Kansas.
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Lol! Or maybe some of the folks in Arizona too.
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02-27-2014, 06:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Bluto
Here's one that was new to me- 'Careen'. They would run the ship into the shallows and when the tide went out, it would roll to one side or the other to enable cleaning or repairs to one side of the hull. Suitable spots to do this were called careenages. I first heard of this reading "Shogun", a terrific novel by the way.
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We get to watch ski boat newbies on the Columbia river islands do this often and unintentionally. In summer, Bonneville dam lowers the flow and the river drops 4-6 feet by morning. Morning entertainment is provided by watching stuck boaters over coffee when we are happily anchored deep.
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02-27-2014, 08:03 PM
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Guru
City: Thibodaux, Louisiana
Vessel Name: Gumbo
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An old Cajun fishing buddy of mine used to say the period between tide changes tide was a "Confused tide" it didn't know if it was coming or going.
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02-27-2014, 08:32 PM
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Scraping Paint
City: Fort Lauderdale
Vessel Model: CHB 48 Zodiac YL 4.2
Join Date: Oct 2007
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Fashion Plate
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02-27-2014, 08:35 PM
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Senior Member
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RickB
It isn't air that is used on marine boilers, it is steam. Only a land based powerplant can afford the space and energy to use compressed air. The only thing a marine soot blower uses air for is the motor that rotates the lance. The soot blower lance and nozzles are located inside the boiler and aimed at the set of tubes they serve. At least once a day the soot blowers are used to "blow tubes" and remove accumulated soot that acts as an insulator and can create a fire hazard.
The soot blowers are fed by superheated steam (very hot and dry) in a sequence starting low and ending high. The forced draft fans are turned up to supply more air flow to carry off the dislodged soot and that is why it looks like the stack is "blowing."
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most of the times they would blow the tubes on the 12 to 4 watch
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02-27-2014, 08:37 PM
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Enigma
City: Slicker?
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Greetings,
Bahama's "rage".
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02-27-2014, 08:40 PM
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City: Dayton, OH
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Quote:
Originally Posted by denloe1
We get to watch ski boat newbies on the Columbia river islands do this often and unintentionally. In summer, Bonneville dam lowers the flow and the river drops 4-6 feet by morning. Morning entertainment is provided by watching stuck boaters over coffee when we are happily anchored deep.
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I got to watch a bunch of bikers (that got hammered the night before), scramble to get their motorcycles out of the surf one morning in Daytona Beach.
Tides, huh.. who knew?.
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02-28-2014, 10:26 AM
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Guru
City: SF Bay Area
Vessel Model: Tollycraft 34' Tri Cabin
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"That's A Real Bell Ringer", referring to waves that were so steep or jutering to a boat that the boat's bell would ring itself.
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02-28-2014, 02:56 PM
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Vessel Name: Du NORD
Vessel Model: Albin-25
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"gripe"
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02-28-2014, 08:46 PM
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City: Central Ohio
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Originally Posted by bligh
To me, one term that has become archaic and shouldn't be is 'pitching.' I read on this forum and others the term 'hobby-horsing.' Seriously, hobby horsing? Pitching is the proper term for that motion of a boat. Totally annoying. Rant over.
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Are Pitch, Roll and Yaw proper boating terms, and do they mean the same thing they do when talking about aircraft?
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02-28-2014, 08:49 PM
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Enigma
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Greetings,
Mr. MC. I think description of aircraft movements are based on nautical terms.
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03-01-2014, 01:01 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RT Firefly
Greetings,
Mr. MC. I think description of aircraft movements are based on nautical terms.
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Except the USAF uses "left / right" verses "port / starboard". I learned that the hard way as a Navy AIC.
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03-01-2014, 05:28 AM
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Join Date: Oct 2007
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Are Pitch, Roll and Yaw proper boating terms, and do they mean the same thing they do when talking about aircraft?
Yes , there is also heave and surge on the nautical side.
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03-01-2014, 03:39 PM
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City: Silverado, CA
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According to Nautical Dictionary, Glossary and Terms directory: Search Results . Hobby horse means, to pitch repeatedly. In short seas, the boat tends to hobby horse.
Pitch refers to a single event as the boat pitched up when we crossed the large wake. Hobby horse refers to a repeated cyclical motion that occurs when the wave period matches the resonant or harmonic frequency of the vessel. In extreme cases, severe hobby horsing could result in pitchpoling.
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03-01-2014, 04:01 PM
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Guru
City: Ft Pierce
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Vessel Model: Was an Albin/PSN 40
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Let's throw this one in also.... phugoid...a relative of pitch
The phugoid has a nearly constant angle of attack but varying pitch, caused by a repeated exchange of airspeed and altitude. It can be excited by an elevator singlet (a short, sharp deflection followed by a return to the centered position) resulting in a pitch increase with no change in trim from the cruise condition...
Phugoid - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
It's where United Airlines Flt 232 in the 1989 crash in Sioux City lost it's total flight control system in a DC-10 because the tail engine exploded and took out all hydraulics....yet the pilots landed it with differential engine thrust and playing the phugoid...at least that's the way I remember Captain Haynes lecture going..saw him 2x in that presentation.
United Airlines Flight 232 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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03-01-2014, 04:05 PM
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Scraping Paint
City: Fort Lauderdale
Vessel Model: CHB 48 Zodiac YL 4.2
Join Date: Oct 2007
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Harumph ... a toyboat term that has spread via the internet. Shouldn't be dignified by repeating it.
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03-01-2014, 04:24 PM
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Enigma
City: Slicker?
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Greetings,
Mr. psneeld. Airspeed and altitude? I suspect you're a bit phuged-up or on the wrong website....
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03-01-2014, 04:32 PM
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Guru
City: Ft Pierce
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RT Firefly
Greetings,
Mr. psneeld. Airspeed and altitude? I suspect you're a bit phuged-up or on the wrong website....

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naw...saw a really fuzzy picture of a phugoid once.... think it's FD...but for the right price....definitely a bluewater vessel. Just don't think you can get away with a propane fridge onboard or surf down them swells through the Columbia bar.
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03-02-2014, 06:31 AM
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Guru
Join Date: Oct 2007
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yet the pilots landed it with differential engine thrust and playing the phugoid.
YES , but with no control of the cycle , they were in a Down portion when contacting the ground.
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03-04-2014, 12:26 PM
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Moderator Emeritus
City: St. Marks, Florida
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New to me, so perhaps to someone else also.
noun: overfall; plural noun: overfalls
- 1.
a turbulent stretch of open water caused by the wind blowing against a current, by a strong current or tide over an underwater ridge, or by a meeting of currents.
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