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Old 04-17-2018, 10:50 AM   #101
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That is a very happy man!
Indeed, and we're so lucky to have him sharing the journey with us!
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Old 04-17-2018, 11:55 PM   #102
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Alas I'm unable to update the blog from here in China. I'll post some pictures here...

Here we are doing some real time design on the swim ladder latch. I haven't been happy with latch on their previous builds. I put it in the contract that I require a latch system that can be deployed easily by a person in the water.

We worked through several iterations and came up with one that made everyone happy. One of the cool things about HYG is that all the crafts are in-house. So they can manufacture stainless parts literally in minutes.

In this shot at right is Jeff Chen, owner of the company. Together we have designed many such parts.
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Old 04-18-2018, 12:18 AM   #103
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Have you seen the movie Downsized?

Could have saved a lot of money going with this "model?"
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The built a shelf for under the sink. And they made a couple of nice teak custom cutting boards that fit over the sink. But we want to have a waste can under the right side of the sink. No problem! Just redesign on the fly and they make all the cabinetry in an hour or two.

Including custom slots to hold the boards, so we don't lose any shelf space.

We are doing things like this all over the boat.
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Hurry up and get that beauty over here to the PNW!
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The built a shelf for under the sink. And they made a couple of nice teak custom cutting boards that fit over the sink. But we want to have a waste can under the right side of the sink. No problem! Just redesign on the fly and they make all the cabinetry in an hour or two.



Including custom slots to hold the boards, so we don't lose any shelf space.



We are doing things like this all over the boat.

These types of details will make a big difference in your day to day enjoyment of the boat.

I am struck by the thought that this is why American Tug has come out with their ďbudgetĒ 36í boat. No changes, take it as is. The kind of customer service and customization you get getting from Hampton is exceptional, but comes at a cost, even in China with lower labor costs.
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Have you seen the movie Downsized?

Could have saved a lot of money going with this "model?"
Did you see how there is very little to protect the props? Unlike Kadey and many others, you simply have to not find the bottom with the Hampton Boats or you spend a small fortune in props and seatorque repairs.

Aren't those models the ones they use at the boat shows?
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Did you see how there is very little to protect the props? Unlike Kadey and many others, you simply have to not find the bottom with the Hampton Boats or you spend a small fortune in props and seatorque repairs.

Aren't those models the ones they use at the boat shows?
So bob is nice enough to share his build with us and you have to insult his new boat with this irrelevant comment. In the PNW we donít find bottom with are running gear, we find it with the bow and then we sink. We do have some extreme currents, all the keel in the world isnít going to help you push through our tidal currents.
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Did you see how there is very little to protect the props? Unlike Kadey and many others, you simply have to not find the bottom with the Hampton Boats or you spend a small fortune in props and seatorque repairs.



Aren't those models the ones they use at the boat shows?

Regional differences. The PNW has deep water and rocks. We also have deadheads. None of these are hit with props, we hit those with our bow and hull. Iíve never boated in the Southeast, but my understanding is that there is a lot of skinny water there and so the concerns are a bit different.

Again, what happened to my boat when the PO found a typical PNW rock. No damage to running gear or rudders. Some minor hull repair on the bottom apparently but canít find any evident of it.
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Regional differences. The PNW has deep water and rocks. We also have deadheads. None of these are hit with props, we hit those with our bow and hull. Iíve never boated in the Southeast, but my understanding is that there is a lot of skinny water there and so the concerns are a bit different.

Again, what happened to my boat when the PO found a typical PNW rock. No damage to running gear or rudders. Some minor hull repair on the bottom apparently but canít find any evident of it.
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OK, did he anchor and falling tide left him on the rock or hit it at speed?

There does not appear to be much bottom damage...
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Bob,

I am really enjoying your posts and photos at your blog. Thanks for taking me along on a trip I will never experience...much appreciated.

Now hurry back, we are going to have sun and 60 degrees in a few days.
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OK, did he anchor and falling tide left him on the rock or hit it at speed?



There does not appear to be much bottom damage...


Remember that we have large tides in this area. He hit probably at around 8-9 knots (he spent fuel more freely than I do). When he hit the rock it was under water. Then the tide went out.
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So bob is nice enough to share his build with us and you have to insult his new boat with this irrelevant comment. In the PNW we donít find bottom with are running gear, we find it with the bow and then we sink. We do have some extreme currents, all the keel in the world isnít going to help you push through our tidal currents.
No offense taken. All boats are tradeoffs. To the best of my knowledge, Krogens are full displacement. You won't see semi displacements like the Hampton with full prop protection.

But unlike a Krogen if I have the need I can push the boat to 20 kts. That's my tradeoff.

The boat I have the most experience on, a large full displacement trawler, has the most protected prop you could hope for. Yet he hit a rock on the east coast and it required replacement.

Also, with respect to hitting a dead head etc, although I hope not to find out, the Hamptons has several layers of Kevlar in the layup. Two layers from chine to chine (i.e. front 2/3rds of boat), and three layers in the very front of the bow.

Thanks for the kind words everyone.
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Old 04-18-2018, 09:37 PM   #114
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At trawler speed, hitting a deadhead will generally give time enough to bring the throttles back to rest and bring the gears back to neutral. As well, whatever has been hit will most likely be pushed outboard. So unless you hit a telephone pole in its center (as I have done, twice) chances of it coming anywhere near the props are slim.

At higher speeds, all bets are off.
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I'm trying!
C'mon Bob, put your back into it, ha!

Love your sense of humor and I bet you are riding a high being at the factory seeing your dream become reality. Have fun over there!
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So here is the deal on the railing stanchions. The pictures tell most of the story. There is a groove that gets adhesive (I didn't ask which one but they use quite a few in the overall process).

There is a backing plate which is glassed into the deck, it has threads which the stanchion screws through. And then a big nut with nylon locking is screwed on as well.

I think they could lift the whole boat with these things! I kept this one as a sample.

I also got a sample of the bolts they use to join the decks. I was kind of surprised how small they are, they are like 1/4 inch and about 5" long. But they place them every 6 inches. And I suppose they are really there to hold the decks in place while the 5200 cures.
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That makes sense! They had no "give" and felt secure.

Thanks for digging that bit of information up for me!
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That is a pretty impressive piece of hardware. Having ripped out a stanchion on a prior sailboat, I really like those stanchions of yours.
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She is looking great Bob.
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