View Poll Results: Here's what I have done with sewage and my current practice
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I never dump any sewage illegally, regardless of the inconvenience.
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67.47% |
I have dumped fully treated sewage in an restricted zone.
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I have dumped sewage that wasn't fully treated illegally.
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19 |
22.89% |
I dump my sewage pretty much anywhere when no one is looking.
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4.82% |
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03-29-2017, 10:36 PM
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#41
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Guru
City: Sea of Cortez, Mexico
Vessel Name: Irene
Vessel Model: Nordhavn 40II
Join Date: Jan 2016
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Quote:
Originally Posted by gaston
I remember using one some time ago and the smell would make me give up boating
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What would be the anchorage etiquette on using the Incinolet ?
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03-29-2017, 11:30 PM
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#42
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Guru
City: Santa Cruz, CA
Vessel Name: Concerto
Vessel Model: 1980 Cheoy Lee
Join Date: May 2013
Posts: 1,531
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We have a pump out service every month. We spend a lot of time in our runabout too though and have to pee off the stern.
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03-30-2017, 12:04 AM
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#43
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Guru
City: ketchikan, Alaska
Vessel Name: 'SLO'~BELLE
Vessel Model: 1978 Marben-27' Flybridge Trawler(extended to 30 feet) Pilothouse Pocket Cruiser[
Join Date: Apr 2012
Posts: 2,206
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Old deckhand
Straight flush always beats a full house.
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Heeeeeeeeeee he!!!
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03-30-2017, 01:23 AM
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#44
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Guru
City: ketchikan, Alaska
Vessel Name: 'SLO'~BELLE
Vessel Model: 1978 Marben-27' Flybridge Trawler(extended to 30 feet) Pilothouse Pocket Cruiser[
Join Date: Apr 2012
Posts: 2,206
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Old deckhand
Straight flush always beats a full house.
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Well Deckhand you are in Sitka and I in Ketchikan. Join in reviewing the following from the 'Poll' data.
I never dump any sewage illegally, regardless of the inconvenience. 34 69.39%
How many visiting yachts have you witnessed pulling up to what ever and where ever, your Sitka pump out station is located? Damn few would be my guess. That is the case her in Ketchikan. Hell were one to pull up and ask for the service the harbor department would have to first fine the instructions!!.
I the 15 years that I have traveled to Wrangell to play golf, staying at the dock within 150 feet at the most distance mooring and within 50 feet the closest averaging 7 such voyages to the town, I have see only ONE visiting Krogen pull up and pump out, ONE.
Had the ‘Poll’ not included ‘NEVER’ in the question, guilt could be masked with the above answer. As the responses are anonymous, who's to know?
So then how can 70% of any audience, a percentage of boats visiting Alaska having by just the shear percentage, state thus? They can’t, there are not enough pump out stations tween Seattle/Ketchikan/Sitka to have complied with this poll’s statics.
Now I don't have any issue or complaint with pumping overboard macerated waste. It is pure and provides feed for all sorts of marine life. It is the unabashed fibbing that is the bother. Call this a un-provable charge on my part, that or none of the 70% have ever come to Alaska. Of those that claim to, none have crossed my travels or been witnessed using the pump out facilities.
Al-Ketchikan
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03-30-2017, 06:33 AM
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#45
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Guru
City: Signal Mtn., TN
Vessel Name: Stella Maris
Vessel Model: Defever 44
Join Date: Feb 2012
Posts: 2,741
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Wxx3
I think it's the same 60% who said they would NEVER vote for Trump.
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Perfect analogy for this topic, actually.
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03-30-2017, 06:40 AM
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#46
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Guru
City: Signal Mtn., TN
Vessel Name: Stella Maris
Vessel Model: Defever 44
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Posts: 2,741
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Our boat only has a 15-gallon holding tank--one of the few design flaws I can point to. So I bought, but have not yet installed, a Purasan MSD. Otherwise, we pump out . . . a lot.
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03-30-2017, 09:48 AM
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#47
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Guru
City: Fort Lauderdale. Florida, USA
Join Date: Jan 2014
Posts: 21,449
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Al
Well Deckhand you are in Sitka and I in Ketchikan. Join in reviewing the following from the 'Poll' data.
I never dump any sewage illegally, regardless of the inconvenience. 34 69.39%
How many visiting yachts have you witnessed pulling up to what ever and where ever, your Sitka pump out station is located? Damn few would be my guess. That is the case her in Ketchikan. Hell were one to pull up and ask for the service the harbor department would have to first fine the instructions!!.
I the 15 years that I have traveled to Wrangell to play golf, staying at the dock within 150 feet at the most distance mooring and within 50 feet the closest averaging 7 such voyages to the town, I have see only ONE visiting Krogen pull up and pump out, ONE.
Had the ‘Poll’ not included ‘NEVER’ in the question, guilt could be masked with the above answer. As the responses are anonymous, who's to know?
So then how can 70% of any audience, a percentage of boats visiting Alaska having by just the shear percentage, state thus? They can’t, there are not enough pump out stations tween Seattle/Ketchikan/Sitka to have complied with this poll’s statics.
Now I don't have any issue or complaint with pumping overboard macerated waste. It is pure and provides feed for all sorts of marine life. It is the unabashed fibbing that is the bother. Call this a un-provable charge on my part, that or none of the 70% have ever come to Alaska. Of those that claim to, none have crossed my travels or been witnessed using the pump out facilities.
Al-Ketchikan
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Never was intentional but the next two choices were to cover many who live in areas like Alaska. I know it's easier in many other areas. Now, I also see Ketchikan and Sitka as very different. From Sitka it's very easy to go three miles offshore, from Ketchikan, not the same.
We did cruise through Alaska in 2014 and noticed the lack of functioning pump outs. We did have a Type II MSD so compliance there was easy for us. That's how we stayed in the "Never" group.
The vast majority of people here though have never been to Alaska. I don't think people are fibbing, just boat in different waters. If we had a slow boat with a small holding tank and didn't have an MSD and cruised the inland passage, at some point there would be no choice in all likelihood but to discharge while cruising. If you're cruising the ICW on the East Coast, there would never be a reason to do anything but pump out. And going three miles offshore would always be an option.
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03-30-2017, 10:11 AM
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#48
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Guru
City: Inside Passage Summer/Columbia River Winter
Vessel Name: Alaskan Sea-Duction
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Posts: 8,046
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Pumpout, if available. Dump 3nm off shore or in the current in B.C. The pumpout in Juneau is brand new and only saw 1 boat use it. I asked the captain how it was working. She said great! I said funny, I told her she was the first one to use it. The look on her face was priceless...
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03-30-2017, 10:20 AM
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#49
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Guru
City: Concrete Washington State
Vessel Name: Willy
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Old deckhand
Straight flush always beats a full house.
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Sure glad I opened this thread just so I didn't miss that.
You should get a prize for same.
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Eric
North Western Washington State USA
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03-30-2017, 11:44 AM
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#50
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Guru
City: ketchikan, Alaska
Vessel Name: 'SLO'~BELLE
Vessel Model: 1978 Marben-27' Flybridge Trawler(extended to 30 feet) Pilothouse Pocket Cruiser[
Join Date: Apr 2012
Posts: 2,206
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Nomad Willy
Sure glad I opened this thread just so I didn't miss that.
You should get a prize for same.
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Has to be a winner , Eric and I seemingly appreciate the humor.
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03-30-2017, 01:45 PM
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#51
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Guru
City: Carrabelle, FL
Vessel Name: Morgan
Vessel Model: '05 Mainship 40T
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 2,160
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We keep our boat in The St. Lucie River. I have to admit, I feel pretty foolish using a pump out when you look at the disgraceful level of pollution coming down the river from Lake O, the Sugar Barons and our politicians who are in their pocket.
The river is a little better than it was last summer, but it's still really bad. I could pump all 40 gallons of my tank out every single day and it wouldn't make a darn bit of difference. Every boat in the river could, honestly.
I don't though.
But we do pump overboard in The Bahamas. It's the only choice.
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03-30-2017, 02:46 PM
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#52
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Guru
City: Baltimore
Vessel Name: Sea life
Vessel Model: Krogen 42 #61
Join Date: Nov 2013
Posts: 686
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We have been dumping directly overboard for over a year. Only game in town. The worse is the Marina environment. I would love to hold it all and dump elsewhere, but can't hold enough.
Getting used to it finally. If I feel bad, I just find the local sewage pipe outlet dumping right into the water. No treatment plants down here. Hell, I've lost count of the outhouses at the end of the piers even.
The worse is the boaters (derelicts) that don't use macerators, instead into a bucket then overboard. Ickk! Its just a nasty visual reminder.
Funny, I've been in what would be described as some of the nicest water for some time now, and everyone dumps overboard. At home in the Chesapeake, water not so nice, and pump outs mandatory. Hmmmm
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03-30-2017, 06:03 PM
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#53
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Guru
City: New Orleans
Vessel Name: Panache
Vessel Model: Viking 43 Double Cabin '76
Join Date: Mar 2011
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I was compelled to be truthful in the survey. Voted: I have dumped sewage that wasn't fully treated illegally.
On occasion, when in the boonies, I have peed off the swim platform. Just cause I could. I know it's a criminal act. Worse, I'm not even repentant.
Other than that, even in blue water where it's demonstrably legal, I don't pump overboard. In these parts and my type of boat use and holding tank capacity, pumpout access is not an issue.
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04-02-2017, 05:44 AM
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#54
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Guru
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 22,553
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We pump out where there is a log kept of our use and we list it in our ships log .
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04-02-2017, 07:16 AM
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#55
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Senior Member
City: Chesapeake Bay
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 138
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Don't Pooh In the Blue !
In our area oysters filter the water and we eat them [emoji6]
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04-02-2017, 08:14 AM
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#56
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Guru
City: North Charleston, SC
Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 4,869
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sbu22
............ On occasion, when in the boonies, I have peed off the swim platform. Just cause I could. I know it's a criminal act. ................
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You didn't read the posts above about peeing and pooping directly into the water, did you?
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04-02-2017, 08:32 AM
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#57
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Guru
City: SF Bay Area
Vessel Model: Tollycraft 34' Tri Cabin
Join Date: Feb 2011
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Wxx3
I think it's the same 60% who said they would NEVER vote for Trump.
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In this thread he'd be called "Pump" lol
BTW - He does smell!
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04-02-2017, 08:42 AM
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#58
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Guru
City: SF Bay Area
Vessel Model: Tollycraft 34' Tri Cabin
Join Date: Feb 2011
Posts: 12,569
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Forward head is for all "black" excrement, it has 30 gal holding tank with no exit off boat except to pump out.
Rear head has Lectro San. Only used for pee - in legal waters of course!
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04-02-2017, 10:04 AM
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#59
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Moderator Emeritus
City: Chicago, IL
Vessel Name: Bay Pelican
Vessel Model: Krogen 42
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 2,993
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Straight overboard is the normal in the eastern Caribbean. We are one of the minority of boats that has a holding tank.
I haven't seen a pump out facility down here in the years I have been here. Must be one somewhere.
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Marty
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04-02-2017, 10:26 AM
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#60
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Guru
City: Fort Lauderdale. Florida, USA
Join Date: Jan 2014
Posts: 21,449
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bay Pelican
Straight overboard is the normal in the eastern Caribbean. We are one of the minority of boats that has a holding tank.
I haven't seen a pump out facility down here in the years I have been here. Must be one somewhere.
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Where are you in the eastern Caribbean? The major marinas on the major islands all seemed to have them. I think if I recall though you're further south.
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