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04-28-2023, 06:12 PM
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Guru
City: Guelph
Vessel Name: Escapade
Vessel Model: 50` US Navy Utility trawler conversion
Join Date: Nov 2015
Posts: 2,328
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Originally Posted by Simi 60
I had just got my much loved Burgman 650 exactly how I wanted it when our current vessel popped up.
Was torn between the two and did consider opening bulwarks , sacrificing the guest cabin , opening the cabin side and turning into a garage.
Financial stupidity to do so.
Appart from the cost of the cut and shut it would cost a couple of hundred every time I wanted to ride it.
Crane on foredeck, saltwater and air would kill it and too heavy for top deck.
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I've got a Silverwing 600 and am taking it with me this summer, I hope :-)
Will post pics.
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04-28-2023, 08:20 PM
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Guru
City: Stockton
Vessel Name: Dream Catcher
Vessel Model: 1979 Island Gypsy 44 Flush Aft Deck
Join Date: Feb 2022
Posts: 705
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Simi 60
I had just got my much loved Burgman 650 exactly how I wanted it when our current vessel popped up.
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I had a Burgman 650, sweet scooter! Lot's of fun and the CVT tranny made it like a magic carpet ride -
But ride that sucker up a gang plank? No way Jose.
I don't want to be on "stupid boaters on youtube" after it falls off into the water with me on it...glub glub.
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04-28-2023, 10:43 PM
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#23
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Guru
City: Guelph
Vessel Name: Escapade
Vessel Model: 50` US Navy Utility trawler conversion
Join Date: Nov 2015
Posts: 2,328
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Delta Riverat
But ride that sucker up a gang plank? No way Jose.
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A lot of people suggested ramps to me, but I view a hoist as the preferred method. Then it's not really any different than handling a tender. But you need a place to keep it.
The PO of my boat did river cruising with his motorcycle on the side deck. He had a BMW 750, and is confident the Silverwing will fit. You can see the hoist in this pic.
I'm planning to load it Monday. Getting kicked off my winter dock.
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04-29-2023, 10:01 AM
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Guru
City: Oconto, WI
Vessel Name: Best Alternative
Vessel Model: 36 Albin Aft Cabin
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 3,097
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too heavy to be practical.
pete
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04-29-2023, 11:02 AM
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Guru
City: SoCal and Vancouver Island
Vessel Name: Tortuga
Vessel Model: Nordhavn 63
Join Date: Aug 2016
Posts: 693
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Weight capacity and space are probably the only real limiting factors. I don’t have personal experience with it, but there is a Nordhavn 60 that carries two full-size cruising motorcycles on their boat deck and uses them to explore.
I also met a guy with an N86 that carried a Fiat 500 (car) on his foredeck. The color matched the boat (of course) and it looked pretty cool. That boat had a davit/crane that could lift the car on and off. I think they had to pick their spots to load/unload and the car might have eventually had corrosion issues, but it worked for him. That boat is so big that the car didn’t look out of proportion sitting up there.
I’m still debating if we want to carry electric bikes, so what do I know.
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04-29-2023, 01:31 PM
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Guru
City: Queensland
Vessel Model: Milkraft 60 converted timber prawn trawler
Join Date: Jul 2016
Posts: 5,482
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The effort in loading, offloading. Cost of crane and mounting, dock space/cost while doing the offload, cost of vehicle and upkeep.
Taxis, Uber, car or scooter rental are so much cheaper and easier.
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04-29-2023, 07:25 PM
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Guru
City: SC
Vessel Name: Calypso
Vessel Model: 1981 Fairchild Scout
Join Date: Aug 2018
Posts: 565
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Can't speak to how to off load it, but this is how you get it aboard.
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04-29-2023, 09:01 PM
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#28
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Guru
City: Seattle
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 3,164
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Simi 60
The effort in loading, offloading. Cost of crane and mounting, dock space/cost while doing the offload, cost of vehicle and upkeep.
Taxis, Uber, car or scooter rental are so much cheaper and easier.
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Not to mention the headaches of bringing a motor vehicle into a foreign country. Electric bikes are classed as “bikes” and would simplify international cruising
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04-29-2023, 09:14 PM
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Guru
City: Stockton
Vessel Name: Dream Catcher
Vessel Model: 1979 Island Gypsy 44 Flush Aft Deck
Join Date: Feb 2022
Posts: 705
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The Burgman was not light, 600 pounds. A hundred over my Bonneville T100.
The same as my BMW R1200RT. Amazingly nimble for such a large bike.
But Rita (the RT) has to go. I'm keeping Bonnie for short rides.
Long rides (what Rita was for) have been replaced with the boat. Yeah, long boat rides -
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04-30-2023, 01:46 AM
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Guru
City: Powell River, BC
Vessel Name: Northern Spy
Vessel Model: Nordic Tug 26
Join Date: Feb 2012
Posts: 4,053
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My 1982 Honda CT 110 fits in the cockpit of my Nordic Tug 26 just fine.
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04-30-2023, 02:49 AM
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Guru
City: Sydney
Vessel Name: Sojourn
Vessel Model: Integrity 386
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 13,112
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Quote:
Originally Posted by guy with a boat
I also met a guy with an N86 that carried a Fiat 500 (car) on his foredeck. The color matched the boat (of course) and it looked pretty cool. That boat had a davit/crane that could lift the car on and off. I think they had to pick their spots to load/unload and the car might have eventually had corrosion issues..
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Rust leapt to mind as the main issue. Some suspect Fiats and Alfas are imported to Australia as deck cargo on submarines.
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2005 Integrity 386 "Sojourn"
Sydney Australia
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05-01-2023, 10:07 AM
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Veteran Member
City: Eastern Shore MD
Vessel Name: Liberdade
Join Date: Mar 2021
Posts: 27
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I delivered a beautiful Grand Banks in September of 2013 From Bangor, ME to Mystic, CT. This was a low budget delivery for a friend so I didn't rent a car, one way, to drive up there from the Hudson Valley of NY and then rent another to get home. I rode my motorcycle up to the boat, used the boom to lift it up onto the boat and then off again. The Multistrada weighs about 450 Lbs. and the wing/boom had no issues with the lift. Was a nice sail of a few days and then back home. Everyone at both ends of the trip were amazed to see the Moto up on deck and stared while loading/unloading and then riding down the dock to the exit.
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Eastern Shore. MD
1984 36’ Island Gypsy
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05-01-2023, 10:42 AM
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TF Site Team
City: Westerly, RI
Vessel Name: N/A
Vessel Model: 1999 Mainship 350 Trawler
Join Date: Jan 2014
Posts: 4,052
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I number of years ago, and I can't remember where...I say a guy pull up to a marina that hosts a lot of fishing tournaments. They had a crane they used to off load for the weigh ins right beside the fuel dock.
The guy docked and they craned a decent sized scooter from the cockpit. I suppose if it can lift an 800lb Tuna, it can handle a 300lb scooter.
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05-01-2023, 09:45 PM
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#34
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Member
City: chicago
Vessel Model: Jeanneau Leader 36
Join Date: Feb 2023
Posts: 6
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jcslocum
I delivered a beautiful Grand Banks in September of 2013 From Bangor, ME to Mystic, CT. This was a low budget delivery for a friend so I didn't rent a car, one way, to drive up there from the Hudson Valley of NY and then rent another to get home. I rode my motorcycle up to the boat, used the boom to lift it up onto the boat and then off again. The Multistrada weighs about 450 Lbs. and the wing/boom had no issues with the lift. Was a nice sail of a few days and then back home. Everyone at both ends of the trip were amazed to see the Moto up on deck and stared while loading/unloading and then riding down the dock to the exit.
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Jon,
Thanks a lot for your answer, this is very useful.
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05-01-2023, 11:16 PM
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#35
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Guru
City: SC
Vessel Name: Calypso
Vessel Model: 1981 Fairchild Scout
Join Date: Aug 2018
Posts: 565
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jcslocum
I delivered a beautiful Grand Banks in September of 2013 From Bangor, ME to Mystic, CT. This was a low budget delivery for a friend so I didn't rent a car, one way, to drive up there from the Hudson Valley of NY and then rent another to get home. I rode my motorcycle up to the boat, used the boom to lift it up onto the boat and then off again. The Multistrada weighs about 450 Lbs. and the wing/boom had no issues with the lift. Was a nice sail of a few days and then back home. Everyone at both ends of the trip were amazed to see the Moto up on deck and stared while loading/unloading and then riding down the dock to the exit.
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I wonder if that is the rare Grand Banks 50 Motor Yacht.
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05-01-2023, 11:26 PM
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#36
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Veteran Member
City: Eastern Shore MD
Vessel Name: Liberdade
Join Date: Mar 2021
Posts: 27
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Adopo
I wonder if that is the rare Grand Banks 50 Motor Yacht.
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It is a 50’ GB.
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Eastern Shore. MD
1984 36’ Island Gypsy
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05-02-2023, 11:52 AM
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#37
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Member
City: Kralendijk, Bonaire
Vessel Name: Cosmos
Vessel Model: 2008 Leopard 40
Join Date: Nov 2016
Posts: 6
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We live on a 40' sailing catamaran. We have a 125cc Yamaha Mio (outside USA scooter). It only weighs 90kg. It's also Fuel Injected and has both electric and kick start.
I have loved scooters and motorbikes my whole life. Flat floor scooters are the most practical. You can store heavy items on the floor by your feet. CG stays low. Saves the price of rental cars/taxis and the hassle of shuttles/buses. We just strap it down on the transom and wash it off as soon as you get anywhere.
We push it from the boat to a dock using our wood passerelle. I've never tried to float it with our dinghy.
We have considered electric bikes, but that would require two. Normal bikes aren't cheap or maintenance free either.
Chris
SV Cosmos
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05-02-2023, 05:49 PM
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#38
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Guru
City: Newport, R.I.
Vessel Name: Hippocampus
Vessel Model: Nordic Tug 42
Join Date: Jul 2020
Posts: 3,712
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Nice selection of bikes. A duc, beemer, wing, Honda. Surprised no dressers.
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05-04-2023, 06:03 PM
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#39
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Guru
City: Guelph
Vessel Name: Escapade
Vessel Model: 50` US Navy Utility trawler conversion
Join Date: Nov 2015
Posts: 2,328
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I'm off the dock with my Silverwing. It was surprisingly easy after an aborted attempt to have it facing aft.
I'm traveling the Trent Severn and want to be able to get back and forth between boat and home about 100-200 miles away. This should do nicely.  
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05-30-2023, 11:11 PM
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#40
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Guru
City: Guelph
Vessel Name: Escapade
Vessel Model: 50` US Navy Utility trawler conversion
Join Date: Nov 2015
Posts: 2,328
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My experiment has gone well so far. I've loaded and unloaded unassisted a couple of times, and the bike is easy to secure on deck.
I was a bit concerned about lock wall clearance on the port side, but the bike is just inboard enough to not hit the wall.
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