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01-30-2023, 12:54 PM
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Veteran Member
City: Cruising
Vessel Name: Möbius
Vessel Model: XPM 78-01
Join Date: Aug 2016
Posts: 89
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Mobius crossed the Atlantic!
We're currently anchored off St. Anne in Martinique in the Caribbean. We've covered more than 5,000 miles since we left Greece around Nov. 1, so it feels good to just take it easy and enjoy the lovely Caribbean weather. And as on board cook, I'm also enjoying the Brie and baguette lifestyle.
The crossing from the Canary Islands on our 78-foot aluminum boat with no active stabilizers, only paravanes, was rolly, but not not that much worse than it would have been going downwind in the trades on a sailboat. Wayne and I did almost all of our watches at the skybridge helm, which probably did make the roll a bit worse, but the views were best up there. Amazingly one night, I had a flying fish land next to my helm chair on the fly bridge. He was quite the high flyer.
We did our engine room checks about every 2 hours, and the Gardner performed flawlessly. The only breakage we had was a stainless shackle at the top of the port paravane pole. We didn't loose the fish because we had the second retrieval line, but we did have 11 meters of Dyneema trailing aft for a bit and it wasn't until we had brought it aboard that I thought about it getting into the prop. Fortunately, the pole held it outboard and Dyneema floats. Wayne was able to tie a bowline loop in the line and with the help of the boathook, he got it looped over the top of the A-frame boom and we were back to two paravanes in the water. Our worst problem was the Sargasso weed snagging and fouling the lines.
Here are the stats from the trip:
Total Passage Distance, Las Palmas Gran Canarias to St. Anne Martinique: 2718 nm / 3128 miles / 5034 km
Total Elapsed Crossing Time: 13 days 23 hours
Average wind speed & direction: 19kts @ 160 degrees to boat (almost behind)
Average seas: 0.8M surface waves + 3M Swell @ 165 degrees to boat
Overall Average boat SoG Speed over Ground: 8.1 kts/hr / 9.3 MPH / 15 Km/Hr
Average NM per 24 hour day: 195 nm
Total Diesel Fuel consumed: 5072 L / 1340 USG / 1116 Imp. Gals
Fuel Consumption @ 8.1 kts: 1.87 L/NM 0.49 USG/NM 2.03 NM/USG
Gardner engine average RPM on passage: 1448 RPM
Average Exhaust Gas Temperature EGT: 335 C / 635 F
If you would like to know more and see some photos and videos, here's a link to the blog post.
https://mobius.world/taxing-mbius-update-jan-1-15-2023/
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Christine Hodgins
Blog: Mobius World
aka Christine Kling, author of sea adventures fiction
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01-30-2023, 01:11 PM
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Guru
City: Malmö
Vessel Name: ABsolutely FABulous
Vessel Model: Greenline 33 Hybrid (2010)
Join Date: Nov 2019
Posts: 1,328
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Wow! Amazing voyage! Congrats on the successful journey!
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2010 Greenline 33' Hybrid
Home port: Malmö, SWEDEN
Currently in: Valletta, MALTA
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01-30-2023, 01:33 PM
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Guru
City: Szczecin
Vessel Name: Dryade
Vessel Model: Trawler 72
Join Date: Mar 2012
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May be for a motor boat it was not the best season to cross ?
I think remember somewhere around May will less windy ( if my memory is correct , I have some doubts :-) )
But need to stay higher in latitude .
The consumption is good only 39% higher than our former LC62 who was lighter (ok also shorter :-) and a lot less than our actual - 26%. It means 1700lt saved on the passage
Thank for the data
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01-30-2023, 03:43 PM
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Guru
City: San Diego
Vessel Model: Helmsman 4304
Join Date: May 2016
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Congrats! Thanks for the blog posts, it was fun reading about your adventures. Safe travels.
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01-30-2023, 03:48 PM
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Veteran Member
City: Cruising
Vessel Name: Möbius
Vessel Model: XPM 78-01
Join Date: Aug 2016
Posts: 89
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ScottC
Wow! Amazing voyage! Congrats on the successful journey!
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Thanks for the congrats, Scott. We started on this journey all the way back in 2016 when we started designing the boat, so it was a pretty awesome thing to see something that we dreamed up be able to do so well at sea.
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Christine Hodgins
Blog: Mobius World
aka Christine Kling, author of sea adventures fiction
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01-30-2023, 03:48 PM
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City: West coast
Join Date: Aug 2021
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Brilliant!
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01-30-2023, 03:52 PM
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Veteran Member
City: Cruising
Vessel Name: Möbius
Vessel Model: XPM 78-01
Join Date: Aug 2016
Posts: 89
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Quote:
Originally Posted by long-cours.62
May be for a motor boat it was not the best season to cross ?
I think remember somewhere around May will less windy ( if my memory is correct , I have some doubts :-) )
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The weather isn't as reliable as it once was. Actually, there was a Nordhvn 72 that crossed in November with the ARC, and he had very mild weather. The boats out there now are having mild weather. We wanted to get across in time to spend some of the winter months in the Caribbean. If you cross in May, you need to get out of the hurricane belt in June. We did fine - it was just strong trades, and as sailors who have crossed the Pacific, we're used to that.
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Christine Hodgins
Blog: Mobius World
aka Christine Kling, author of sea adventures fiction
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01-30-2023, 04:24 PM
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Guru
City: Queensland
Vessel Model: Milkraft 60 converted timber prawn trawler
Join Date: Jul 2016
Posts: 4,934
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Well done.
Of interest to me in the pics of stabi arms it seems you have no dyneema running from pole end fwd to take the load?
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01-30-2023, 04:45 PM
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Guru
City: Saint Petersburg
Vessel Name: Weebles
Vessel Model: 1970 Willard 36 Trawler
Join Date: Mar 2019
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What an amazing milestone! I watched the walk through of the Gardner engine on your YouTube channel which was really interesting.
Thanks so much for sharing with us! I look forward to future installments
Peter
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01-30-2023, 05:37 PM
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TF Site Team
City: Puget Sound
Vessel Name: Muirgen
Vessel Model: 50' Beebe Passagemaker
Join Date: May 2019
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Glad to see the Mr. Gee-2 is working for you! We ran 2900 miles from Seattle to Glacier Bay and back last Summer. Nary a hickup with the engine itself (we won't talk about the hyd pump pto coupling that ate itself though).
Averaged about 7.0 kts. Boat weighed 87k lbs with full fuel. 1200 rpm average, fuel burn was on the main engine was just under 3 gph, or 2.5 nm/usg. You gotta love a Gardner!
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01-30-2023, 06:42 PM
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City: Seattle, WA USA and San Carlos, Sonora MX
Vessel Name: Domino and Libra
Vessel Model: Malcom Tennant 20M and Noordzee Kotter 52
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Thanks for this update. Must feel good to put that much water under her keel and confirm the concepts you chose.
Can you comment on what leads to an average speed on this trip of 8.1 kn? Mobius is comfortable a bit above this? This is her sweet spot?
Really awesome numbers for a ship of this size.
Congratulations on this early mark.
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01-30-2023, 06:48 PM
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City: Walkabout Creek
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Fantastic that you are off and underway! Let the adventures roll...
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01-31-2023, 02:39 PM
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Veteran Member
City: Cruising
Vessel Name: Möbius
Vessel Model: XPM 78-01
Join Date: Aug 2016
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Simi 60
Well done.
Of interest to me in the pics of stabi arms it seems you have no dyneema running from pole end fwd to take the load?
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Hello Simi - The design of the paravane booms is that there is one upright pole and another aluminum pole that is angled forward and attached to the hull to take that forward load. You can see that in this photo, I think. It seems to work well.
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Blog: Mobius World
aka Christine Kling, author of sea adventures fiction
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01-31-2023, 02:52 PM
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Veteran Member
City: Cruising
Vessel Name: Möbius
Vessel Model: XPM 78-01
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Quote:
Originally Posted by klee wyck
Thanks for this update. Must feel good to put that much water under her keel and confirm the concepts you chose.
Can you comment on what leads to an average speed on this trip of 8.1 kn? Mobius is comfortable a bit above this? This is her sweet spot?
Really awesome numbers for a ship of this size.
Congratulations on this early mark.
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Yes, Mobius is capable of going faster, but we are always looking for the sweet spot with RPM and CPP pitch that will give us the best speed at the best fuel economy. We have been experimenting on the longer passages like the 600 mile passage down the Algerian coast and the 700+ mile passage from Tangiers to the Canary Islands. Both of those we were able to find flatter water with the shorter weather windows, and we averaged slightly higher speeds. With the 10-12-ft. following seas in the Atlantic, our speed would slow a bit in the troughs before the stern lifted on the next wave. Also, the last 5 days we were slowing down to 3 knots 4-5 times a day to pop the paravanes out of the water and try to shake all the Sargasso weed off. Sometimes we even had to go in reverse in those seas to try to get the weed off the rudder. That's my best guess, anyway.
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Blog: Mobius World
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01-31-2023, 02:52 PM
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Senior Member
City: Ft. Lauderdale
Join Date: Oct 2007
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I will be in Martinique for a survey on Wednesday, Feb. 8th. Any chance we can connect? Would love to see you boat!
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01-31-2023, 03:10 PM
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Guru
City: Szczecin
Vessel Name: Dryade
Vessel Model: Trawler 72
Join Date: Mar 2012
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Did you check
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Originally Posted by ChristineKling
Hello Simi - The design of the paravane b
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your top speed when full loaded in calm water ?
If look at your website the weight full load will be 50.655kgs
The curve say around 10.8 kts for 180hp
but in the real world is it how much ?
Just by curiosity :-)
But if like us with our actual boat , the former and all before : we never push the throttle to the max and never know our top speed
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01-31-2023, 05:59 PM
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Guru
City: Newport, R.I.
Vessel Name: Hippocampus
Vessel Model: Nordic Tug 42
Join Date: Jul 2020
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Love St Anne/Le Marin. Go to lender price for groceries. Less expensive place in that part of the world and they have interesting food.
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01-31-2023, 10:26 PM
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City: Queensland
Vessel Model: Milkraft 60 converted timber prawn trawler
Join Date: Jul 2016
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ChristineKling
Hello Simi - The design of the paravane booms is that there is one upright pole and another aluminum pole that is angled forward and attached to the hull to take that forward load. You can see that in this photo, I think. It seems to work well.

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Hi, yes I saw that similar to our h frame.
I guess the strength difference comes from your welding brackets into hull vs our epoxy set bolts into timber rub rail.
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02-01-2023, 10:20 AM
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Veteran Member
City: Cruising
Vessel Name: Möbius
Vessel Model: XPM 78-01
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Judy at JWY
I will be in Martinique for a survey on Wednesday, Feb. 8th. Any chance we can connect? Would love to see you boat!
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Hi Judy,
Yes, it looks like we'll still be here. Made the mistake of having mail forwarded to us via USPS and it seems to have gone walkabout.
I sent you a PM with our contact info.
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Christine Hodgins
Blog: Mobius World
aka Christine Kling, author of sea adventures fiction
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02-01-2023, 10:24 AM
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Veteran Member
City: Cruising
Vessel Name: Möbius
Vessel Model: XPM 78-01
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hippocampus
Love St Anne/Le Marin. Go to lender price for groceries. Less expensive place in that part of the world and they have interesting food.
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I agree, LeaderPrice is the best place for groceries here. However, all the French food is dangerous for our waistlines.
Today, I will need to get in the water and check out how our silicone bottom paint is doing just to burn off some of the French cheese I've been enjoying!
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