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09-01-2021, 11:24 PM
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Moderator Emeritus
City: SEWARD ALASKA
Vessel Name: DOS PECES
Vessel Model: BAYLINER 4788
Join Date: Feb 2011
Posts: 6,266
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looking for a low cost world capable boat???
If you are looking for a low cost world capable boat, here is one
https://www.yachtworld.com/boats/194...SACEgKtHPD_BwE
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09-01-2021, 11:37 PM
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Guru
City: Homer, Ak
Vessel Name: Unicorn
Vessel Model: 1970 50' DEFEVER OFFSHORE CRUISER Timber
Join Date: Apr 2020
Posts: 526
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warning... not a single handed vessel.
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09-02-2021, 12:03 AM
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Guru
City: SF Bay Area
Vessel Model: Tollycraft 34' Tri Cabin
Join Date: Feb 2011
Posts: 12,569
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I want IT! Wife not agreed!! Thank God!!!
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09-02-2021, 03:32 AM
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Enigma
City: Slicker?
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 16,565
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Greetings,
Seriously? It must be worth more than that for scrap unless the cost of hazardous waste disposal exceeds it's scrap value.
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09-02-2021, 05:57 AM
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Guru
City: Ft Pierce
Vessel Name: Sold
Vessel Model: Was an Albin/PSN 40
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 28,148
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Thought I heard a bunch of former Coasties that sailed aboard are trying the floating museum route.
Found it....
https://www.oceanguardian-og.org/acushnet
Old news I guess..... guess they can't afford it any more. She was still active and busy when I was in Kodiak 1990-1992.
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09-02-2021, 07:52 AM
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Guru
City: Aventura FL
Vessel Name: Kinja
Vessel Model: American Tug 34 #116 2008
Join Date: Oct 2017
Posts: 10,595
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ksanders
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Does the experienced crew come with it?
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Two days out the hospital after a week in the hospital because of a significant heart attack.
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09-02-2021, 09:32 AM
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Senior Member
City: Solomons MD.
Vessel Name: Sun Runner
Vessel Model: 1985 Mainship 34 Trawler MK III
Join Date: Mar 2018
Posts: 488
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RT Firefly
Greetings,
Seriously? It must be worth more than that for scrap unless the cost of hazardous waste disposal exceeds it's scrap value.
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Esp. if full of fuel.
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09-02-2021, 09:38 AM
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Guru
City: Gig Harbor, WA
Vessel Name: MoonShadow
Vessel Model: Wendon Skylounge 72'
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 721
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ksanders
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I reckon a few of us could put together enough dollars to buy this beauty. Then we just need one of us to win the lottery to fuel her!
~A
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09-02-2021, 10:27 AM
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Guru
City: Newport, R.I.
Vessel Name: Hippocampus
Vessel Model: Nordic Tug 42
Join Date: Jul 2020
Posts: 3,892
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The cost of any vessel is purchase cost plus annual expense minus recovered funds at time of sale.
Knowing this as we’ve been boat hunting means there have been multifactorial boats I couldn’t afford even if given to me for free. This is one such boat for most of us. It is definitely NOT a low cost world traveler.
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09-02-2021, 10:42 AM
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Guru
City: SF Bay Area
Vessel Model: Tollycraft 34' Tri Cabin
Join Date: Feb 2011
Posts: 12,569
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hippocampus
The cost of any vessel is purchase cost plus annual expense minus recovered funds at time of sale.
Knowing this as we’ve been boat hunting means there have been multifactorial boats I couldn’t afford even if given to me for free. This is one such boat for most of us. It is definitely NOT a low cost world traveler.
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Forget the usual cost breakdown. Just think of the annual $$$'s for a minimum of 2 persons who would be needed as a boat savvy crew! $150K plus/plus!! Crew of 3 or 4 would be better.
I wonder what a bottom job costs?
This is truly a "John Wayne" type opportunity...
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09-02-2021, 10:57 AM
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Guru
City: Aventura FL
Vessel Name: Kinja
Vessel Model: American Tug 34 #116 2008
Join Date: Oct 2017
Posts: 10,595
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I was born the same year as the CG cutter. I have maintained myself, sort of, and I am not worth squat. I suspect it is the same as the cutter except as a museum display.
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Two days out the hospital after a week in the hospital because of a significant heart attack.
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09-02-2021, 11:00 AM
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Guru
City: Ft Pierce
Vessel Name: Sold
Vessel Model: Was an Albin/PSN 40
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 28,148
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Per the link I posted above...
Crew: 25-30
* Passengers and crew up to 85 depending on mission
* Emergency situation and rescue 300 passengers on board
* Accommodation: 85 people
* Range 20,000 + nm at 12 knots
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09-02-2021, 11:09 AM
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Guru
City: Reno, Nevada
Join Date: Apr 2019
Posts: 1,177
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hippocampus
The cost of any vessel is purchase cost plus annual expense minus recovered funds at time of sale.
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+opportunity costs of the cash invested + interest on any financed amount.
Really, owning any sizeable boat is insanity lol.
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09-02-2021, 11:19 AM
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Guru
City: Reno, Nevada
Join Date: Apr 2019
Posts: 1,177
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The good news is so long as it is flagged in the US you don't need to comply with mandatory pilotage areas in Alaska.
Sure, a couple could run it, so long as one of them spends all underway hours in the engineering spaces
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09-02-2021, 11:35 AM
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Guru
City: Aventura FL
Vessel Name: Kinja
Vessel Model: American Tug 34 #116 2008
Join Date: Oct 2017
Posts: 10,595
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Art
Forget the usual cost breakdown. Just think of the annual $$$'s for a minimum of 2 persons who would be needed as a boat savvy crew! $150K plus/plus!! Crew of 3 or 4 would be better.
I wonder what a bottom job costs?
This is truly a "John Wayne" type opportunity...
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Double the crew size at least, plus a cook. The cook has no other duties unless the cook wants.
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Two days out the hospital after a week in the hospital because of a significant heart attack.
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09-02-2021, 11:40 AM
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Guru
City: Southport, FL near Panama City
Vessel Name: FROLIC
Vessel Model: Mainship 30 Pilot II since 2015. GB-42 1986-2015. Former Unlimited Tonnage Master
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 4,984
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In my salad daze, I commanded a ship with similar propulsion, and since the ad does not do a great job of explaining it, let me elaborate.
There are two propulsion engineering spaces. The forward one contains the four propulsion diesel DC generators. In my ships there were 16-cylinder Cat D399s. The DC generators were directly attached to the aft end of each diesel and ran wrist-sized cables to carry that enormous DC current back to the switchboard in the aft propulsion space. From the switchboard this DC power was directed to the propulsion electric motor which in our case was about two-stories high. This motor requires AC excitation to rotate the propeller shaft. There were smaller diesel generators in that space (a Cat 353 and a pair of GM 671s) to provide both the required excitation and normal house load to the rest of the ship.
I could run my ship at 7 knots on just one of the big diesels and one excitation genny. Two of the D399s would get us to about 10 knots, three for around twelve, and all four for 15 knots.
For experienced crew talk to the folks at the National Association of Fleet Tug Sailors National Association of Fleet Tug Sailors – "The difficult we do today – the impossible may take until tomorrow." started by the operations officer from my ship. It is an umbrella organization which includes any folks who served on any of the numerous classes of towing/salvage/rescue ships of the US Navy. If those old codgers in the movie Battleship could get the USS Missouri underway to fight the aliens, how hard could this be?
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Rich Gano
FROLIC (2005 MainShip 30 Pilot II)
Panama City area
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09-02-2021, 11:40 AM
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Guru
City: SF Bay Area
Vessel Model: Tollycraft 34' Tri Cabin
Join Date: Feb 2011
Posts: 12,569
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OldDan1943
Double the crew size at least, plus a cook. The cook has no other duties unless the cook wants.
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Put BIG ins. on it. Make sure plenty epirb units aboard and really good life boats. She's an old gal... might not stay afloat in the racking of sea conditions.
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09-02-2021, 11:48 AM
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Guru
City: Southport, FL near Panama City
Vessel Name: FROLIC
Vessel Model: Mainship 30 Pilot II since 2015. GB-42 1986-2015. Former Unlimited Tonnage Master
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 4,984
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OldDan1943
I was born the same year as the CG cutter. I have maintained myself, sort of, and I am not worth squat. I suspect it is the same as the cutter except as a museum display.
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To the contrary, sir! The ship I commanded was built in 1943/44 and is still running just fine thank you very much as a member of the Taiwanese Navy. My former operations officer was recently over there visiting as senior ROC admiral in Keelung in the north end of the island. He ordered the ship brought up from Kaohsiung so Ned could go aboard for a look around. He said the ship is in SPLENDID shape with the same window unit AC we mounted into a bulkhead to give him some relief from the heat in his stateroom back in 1977!
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Rich Gano
FROLIC (2005 MainShip 30 Pilot II)
Panama City area
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09-02-2021, 11:55 AM
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Guru
City: Reno, Nevada
Join Date: Apr 2019
Posts: 1,177
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Quote:
Originally Posted by psneeld
Per the link I posted above...
Crew: 25-30
* Passengers and crew up to 85 depending on mission
* Emergency situation and rescue 300 passengers on board
* Accommodation: 85 people
* Range 20,000 + nm at 12 knots
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Don't forget the theater. Could host TED talks on board. Or woo investors 40 at a time lol.
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09-02-2021, 12:26 PM
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Guru
City: Ft Pierce
Vessel Name: Sold
Vessel Model: Was an Albin/PSN 40
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 28,148
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Until almost 1990, the USCG was operating these type diesel electrics plus several WWII vintage icebreakers. The old 180 class buoy tenders were diesel electric too.
Should be plenty of retired or ex-coasties around that know how to run them, wanting to is another story.
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