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Old 03-01-2018, 12:20 PM   #21
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I cant..... I still want posting priveledges...

I have known government workers to put many of my civilian coworkers to shame..

2 of my old bosses hire old broken down Coasties like me because we put our younger, more highly trained coworkers to shame....

Why?

Pride...we arent mercenaries...we do the job no matter what it takes, we take money out of our own pockets to resolve issues, we do what we do because it needs to be done...

Something many of my civilian coworkers cant comprehend.

Thankfully, many can and thats what keeps us rolling along.... but snide comments about the government without specifics in my mind is what keeps this country divided and spineless.

Now if you want what I really think, I will give up my posting rights and let you and any others know how I really feel.
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Old 03-01-2018, 12:28 PM   #22
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It wasn't meant as a government vs. civilian contractor rant. I worked for the government. When I had a service call, I tried my best to take everything I might need on the call and kept my truck well stocked. I was allowed to do that because I was known to get the job done. Also, I would rather be fixing things than driving around.

Many co-workers (and some bosses) were not like that. They would send someone out to look at a simple job, then send someone out to do the job.

It would seem that if a navigation light is not working, the list of parts to make it work again would be pretty small. It's hard to imagine not being able to fix it in one trip.

But, go ahead and tell everyone how you feel.
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Old 03-01-2018, 12:30 PM   #23
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Horsepuckey, you took a cheapshot at our men in uniform and I called you on it.

Live with it.

You should know then both businesses and govt agencies are set up different.

A LOT of us got the job done, not just you....

A cheap shot I dont appreciate....and those that respect our guys in uniform.

Keep trying to defend an indefensible position and it will only get worse.
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Old 03-01-2018, 12:42 PM   #24
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Old 03-01-2018, 12:55 PM   #25
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Horsepuckey, you took a cheapshot at our men in uniform and I called you on it.

Live with it.

You should know then both businesses and govt agencies are set up different.

A LOT of us got the job done, not just you....

A cheap shot I dont appreciate....and those that respect our guys in uniform.

Keep trying to defend an indefensible position and it will only get worse.
Now that's "utter bull...."
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Getting back on the OP's point. I can see some of the challenges.

-> ATONS are really only used by mariners. Mariners 'typically' understand and use coordinates.

-> The Coast Guard is a 'Marine-based' organization, who also understand and use coordinates.

-> Landlubber neighbor decides to be a good Samaritan and get involved with things nautical in nature and calls the Coast Guard.

-> Landlubber isn't aware that in the 310 miles of the St. Johns river the numbering system will change. It's not as simple as (It starts at 1 and ends at 675). I can locate a Red #16 miles south of Red #28 which is closer to the mouth. (Red #4 starts at the mouth). I know we've all seen two 'Red #2' just miles from one another.

-> CG wants to verify location and requests coordinates. At which point the neighbor is confused. I'm sure it begins to become frustrating to both parties at this point.

-> Who knows who the neighbor actually called. CG station, or office in Washington? I strongly suspect whomever it was was, might possibly have not the correct party for that type of report being given.


AS far as 'Who works harder?" It's the person getting it done. There are both lazy and hardworking people in every industry, both public and private sector.
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......... AS far as 'Who works harder?" It's the person getting it done. There are both lazy and hardworking people in every industry, both public and private sector.
That's the truth and the bottom line.
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Old 03-01-2018, 02:55 PM   #28
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That sounds like a government operation because if a private company sent someone out to repair the light, they would have made sure they had the parts and skills to repair it in one trip.
sounds pretty one sided to me...

no backtracking while I can point it out.

maybe a sincere apology to all the hard working govt employees will get me off the step....
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Fat chance.

You misread my post and are now trying to make into something it wasn't. I'm done.
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Old 03-01-2018, 03:02 PM   #30
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Good, I didnt misread anything...post 15 is clear as a bell.

And an apology costs nothing... figures.....

I dont care but those Coasties that swung by the light didnt deserve it
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Had this occurred in BC, This demonstrates who the appropriate agency is:
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