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Old 01-15-2021, 08:58 PM   #1
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Lrc

What is considered long range these days just out of curiosity
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Old 01-15-2021, 09:02 PM   #2
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Wild ass guess...Pacific crossing potential.
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Wild ass guess...Pacific crossing potential.
That's more likely a passage maker.

LRC would probably be capable of cruising through the Caribbean or maybe cruising from Seattle to parts of Alaska.

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Probably another "definition" that really isn't well defined, more marketing than anything else.

One aspect is capability to be self-sufficient for long periods of time (fuel capacity and burn, food storage, water maker, etc.).

I would add to the definition the boat is rigged for multi-day off shore cruising so that you can comfortably run for those long periods of time.

My assumption is that LRCruising (apart from possibly the Great Lakes in this region) is offshore.
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Maybe I should have been more specific,lemme restate it,for a vessel to be considered a LRC how many miles should she be able to steam on her own fuel reserves
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Maybe I should have been more specific,lemme restate it,for a vessel to be considered a LRC how many miles should she be able to steam on her own fuel reserves
Twice half way.

That's a tough question. Most boats will have a range of distances based on cruise speed. Not uncommon for people crossing oceans to reduce their speed atleast for the beginning of a trip to ensure enough fuel reserves. As an example, at 8 knots my boat has a 1,300 mile range. At 7 knots it's 2,100 miles. At 6 knots it's 3,000 miles.

It would probably depend more on how slow you're willing to go. Where you plan to cruise and distance between fuel stops, is probably a bigger consideration. While some boats have less than a 500 mile range, I would be happier with over 1,000. One of the advantages of large tanks, is the ability to fuel at the less expensive docks.

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Don't rely on labels. Instead, consider fuel capacity, fuel consumption rate, and speed. My boat should be able to go non-stop from San Francisco to Seattle with its 310-gallon fuel capacity cruising at six knots.
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Vessels fall into two categories.

Can cross oceans

Cannot cross oceans.

Beyond that fuel range is frankly unimportant.

Why???

The two farthest places in North America between fuel availability are Yakutat Alaska to Cordova Alaska and Turtle Bay Baja Mexico to Cabo.

Both are in the 300NM range.

So... If you can make 300NM safely you can go anywhere.

Ocean crossing is another story. 2,000 miles of safe fuel range is needed.

Anything between 300 and 2,000 has little meaning really. More fuel just adds choices but is not necessary.
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Cross oceans like California to Hawaii
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Vessels fall into two categories.

Can cross oceans

Cannot cross oceans.

Beyond that fuel range is frankly unimportant.

Why???

The two farthest places in North America between fuel availability are Yakutat Alaska to Cordova Alaska and Turtle Bay Baja Mexico to Cabo.

Both are in the 300NM range.

So... If you can make 300NM safely you can go anywhere.

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In america maybe, here its yes and no.
Smaller boats yes, bigger boats possibly no
Size of boat and maneuverability or lack there of makes a difference
Many fuel docks are simply to tight in the quest to jam in maximum marina berths
Nearest next stop for us from where we are now is a good 500nm away.

If I go north once I have passed Cairns next easy dock is probably 1500nm further on
Sure, I can get fuel from barges and tie up to barnacle encrusted jetties but easily accessible floating pontoons for big, cumbersome white boats are few and far between.

But its OK, we are good for 3500nm @ 7.5 knots.
More again if dropping back to 6 knots @ 1000rpm
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Was just wondering if I could call my vessel a lrc
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What ya got for tankage? Fuel burn at cruising speed?

I'd be willing to bet the your Willard is a LOOOONG range cruiser. They took that 30' Willard to Bermuda. That's long range, fer sure!
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What ya got for tankage? Fuel burn at cruising speed?

I'd be willing to bet the your Willard is a LOOOONG range cruiser. They took that 30' Willard to Bermuda. That's long range, fer sure!
500 gallons at 7.5 knts burning 2 gph,if I pull her back to 6knts just over 1gph at that speed with 500 gallons in favorable conditions should give me 3000 mile range plus maybe closer to 3500
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What ya got for tankage? Fuel burn at cruising speed?

I'd be willing to bet the your Willard is a LOOOONG range cruiser. They took that 30' Willard to Bermuda. That's long range, fer sure!
500 gallons at 7.5 knts burning 2 gph,if I pull her back to 6knts just over 1gph at that speed with 500 gallons in favorable conditions should give me 3000 mile range plus maybe closer to 3500,another 36 hull with smaller engine crossed from cali to Hawaii burning something like 350 gallons over 18 days,so I guess it may even be considered a passagemaker
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500 gallons at 7.5 knts burning 2 gph,if I pull her back to 6knts just over 1gph at that speed with 500 gallons in favorable conditions should give me 3000 mile range plus maybe closer to 3500
No one would bat an eye if you called your boat a long range cruiser!
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A funny side note: our boat has about 170 gallons of diesel tankage, giving it an approximately 400 mile range at 12 kt cruising speed in good weather and it says " passage maker" right on the side, from the manufacturer!

Call it what you want! Those Willards are a sweet ride
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A funny side note: our boat has about 170 gallons of diesel tankage, giving it an approximately 400 mile range at 12 kt cruising speed in good weather and it says " passage maker" right on the side, from the manufacturer!

Call it what you want! Those Willards are a sweet ride
I bought this boat in Rhode island was at safe harbor,curious what does your cat have for power in her
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There's a few safe harbor marinas I believe.

If you make it back down, we are in wickford during the season and would love to trade boat tours in a post-COVID world.

She's powered by twin 75 ho yanmars (4jh3-te).
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Safe harbor Portsmouth,there is nothing fancy about my boat it's built more towards utility and efficiency,the interior is very plain,simple,anyway I was on a world catamaran and couldn't believe how smooth and sturdy they ride,you rig must be unbelievably stable and smooth
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We're pretty happy with it. Going into steep seas makes the bridge deck pound, otherwise it's great. I think you could go down swell in almost anything in this boat.

There's a lot to be said for utility and efficiency.
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