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Old 06-09-2018, 08:04 PM   #81
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I don't fish, so the fishing area is a waste of the tight boat space to me
I understand that. I am the same. The Downeast and lobster type boats are converted to cruisers with flare. No longer fishing boats, they are lighter, have a good top speed of around 12-18kts. An economy cruiser would be around 1 to 2 gph fuel burn at around 8kts. Keep an open mind. A 36'x12' boat has a lot of space whe they are fitted out as a full blown cruiser.



This boat is priced a bit high but just something to think about.
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Old 06-09-2018, 08:15 PM   #82
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I fish at the local supermarket, so no need to compromise the boat's configuration to accommodate fishing.

Regardless, when some boatless acquaintences learned I acquired a boat, they asked do I fish. When I said "no" they looked at me quizzically.

Buehler's original design for the Coot had a larger cockpit (smaller saloon) and a secondary helm in the cockpit, with provision for crane for crabbing.
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Old 06-09-2018, 08:48 PM   #83
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I understand that. I am the same. The Downeast and lobster type boats are converted to cruisers with flare. No longer fishing boats, they are lighter, have a good top speed of around 12-18kts. An economy cruiser would be around 1 to 2 gph fuel burn at around 8kts. Keep an open mind. A 36'x12' boat has a lot of space whe they are fitted out as a full blown cruiser.



This boat is priced a bit high but just something to think about.
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I don't believe the 2GPH @8kn! Maybe 3 gph @4kn
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Old 06-09-2018, 09:24 PM   #84
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One factor to remember is the boat insurance. Insurance companies need to know your boating history also any nautical school or licenses you hold. many marinas in my area (Florida) require insurance if staying in a slip whether as a live aboard or short or long term. It,s best to look, compare the trawlers and tour the trawlers. Also most insurance companies and lending institutions may or will require a servey. Good luck on your quest , when you find "the" boat you will know it. don't rush all kinds of trawler sites to locate the boat of choice.
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Old 06-09-2018, 10:13 PM   #85
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a little off topic, but I want to confirm is the "interest payment tax deduction" that goes to form 1040A is the combined number (mortgage interest + boat loan interest, it doesn't matter which one is "first home") as long as the combined loan principal <= $750K.

if the combined loan is $760K, then the interest payment deduction becomes 0, right?


As I understand it (keep in mind that since I donít have mortgage debt at that level that Iíve not paid a lot of attention) you can deduct the interest on the first $750k in debt. So in your $760k example, you would not be able to deduct the interest on that extra $10k.

Again, I donít know how that would be done but your CPA can figure it out.
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Believe only mortgage interest related to purchase or improvement in deductible, not for cashing in on the property's appreciation.
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Old 06-09-2018, 10:26 PM   #87
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I understand that. I am the same. The Downeast and lobster type boats are converted to cruisers with flare. No longer fishing boats, they are lighter, have a good top speed of around 12-18kts. An economy cruiser would be around 1 to 2 gph fuel burn at around 8kts. Keep an open mind. A 36'x12' boat has a lot of space whe they are fitted out as a full blown cruiser.



This boat is priced a bit high but just something to think about.
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that might be a good boat, but price is out of my budget when I have many choices in the 50k level, I don't see a strong motivation to double the budget
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Coming late to this party, but my 78 Albin is a pretty solid boat, runs great, and has decent room inside. Depends on what you are after. Some folks can live on a boat this size, but the layout in ours wouldnít work for us. Weekends are great though. There are a lot of older boats available... just make sure it wasnít neglected and that normal maintenance was performed.

Upgrades are nice as long as they were properly done. Teak removal is ok too but does take away much of the character of the boat. We donít mind teak......
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Cruise, if you are still looking I have a 83 mainshipIII , repowered with a 260 Yanmar. It runs great and has never been out of the great lakes. I have had it for 30 years it is a good boat.
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is this 1980 Manship 34' trawler worth a look? The 1980 Perkins engine has only 1375 hours over almost 40 years, or 34 hours usage per year, is it a bit low.

this 1988 Marine Trader sundeck has a Ford Lehman 2715E and 3000 hours or 100 hrs per year, more reasonable.

I heard engine rebuilt is costly (40k-50k). I would want an economical and reliable built boat, and low maintenance cost in the future.

The bulls about cost of engines. You can buy rebuild Lehman fro 3200 to 5000. Taking the motor out it is another story, but can be done on budget.
Friend of mine blow the engine (Lehman) and had to replace it. Got the engine for 3000 and 1000 to replace.
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didn't some Marine Trader boats have fiberglass fuel tanks, which are not compatible with ethanol gasoline. I would imagine they've all been upgraded by now but that would be my first question.
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didn't some Marine Trader boats have fiberglass fuel tanks, which are not compatible with ethanol gasoline. I would imagine they've all been upgraded by now but that would be my first question.
I had MT 34 and had metal tanks. My 36 GS have fiberglass fuel tank build into boat. I never heard of a MT with a gas engine.
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didn't some Marine Trader boats have fiberglass fuel tanks, which are not compatible with ethanol gasoline. I would imagine they've all been upgraded by now but that would be my first question.
To be quite honest, on survey the fuel tanks were not visible. I am assuming mine are original and have set aside a fund should they ever fail. Knock on wood, they are fine. I do not know of any mt gasoline engines. Mine is diesel.
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I remember reading either a book or a blog about a couple doing the Loop with a MT trawler. They had to replace the built-in tanks because they disintegrated. Might have been diesel but I've never heard of that happening with diesel, just gas.
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just saw these two boats: 1985 Senator 35'
and 1985 Chien Hwa Senator 35

how to compare them except for their price?
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just saw these two boats: 1985 Senator 35'
and 1985 Chien Hwa Senator 35

how to compare them except for their price?
One of them has no genny....Don't know about the other
One has new fuel tanks +++
One has been painted and repaired outside
One has a covered sundeck

I think you are on the right track
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