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02-23-2016, 04:10 PM
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TF Site Team/Forum Founder
City: League City, Tx
Vessel Name: Floatsome & Jetsome
Vessel Model: Meridian 411
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Parts manual for your boat????
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Prairie 29...Perkins 4236...Sold
Mainship Pilot 30...Yanmar 4LHA-STP...Sold
Carver 356...T-Cummins 330B...Sold
Meridian 411...T-Cummins 450C
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02-23-2016, 04:31 PM
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Guru
City: gulf coast
Join Date: Jun 2014
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I wonder how many other makes provide such details.
Nice drawings however they don't show the supplier part number only the carver part number.
I had a 1997 Carver and IMO they are very underrated. Call it a trawler and everyone would want one.
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02-23-2016, 04:39 PM
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TF Site Team/Forum Founder
City: League City, Tx
Vessel Name: Floatsome & Jetsome
Vessel Model: Meridian 411
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 7,332
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Prairie 29...Perkins 4236...Sold
Mainship Pilot 30...Yanmar 4LHA-STP...Sold
Carver 356...T-Cummins 330B...Sold
Meridian 411...T-Cummins 450C
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02-23-2016, 04:45 PM
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Guru
City: North Carolina for now
Join Date: Aug 2011
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Hatteras is to my knowledge the best for this. They can get you the manual and the "as built" detailed blueprint drawings and important specs for your hull number, almost to the very beginning of the brand. Pure gold. The spin off of their parts department, Sam's Marine, is a treasure trove of knowledge and access to the old and obscure... or the modern replacement thereto.
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George
"There's the Right Way, the Wrong Way, and what some guy says he's gotten away with"
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02-23-2016, 04:50 PM
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Veteran Member
City: Toronto
Vessel Name: Maurader
Vessel Model: Marine Trader Trawler
Join Date: Oct 2014
Posts: 68
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I've been thinking of doing this specifically for my boat, along with a wiring diagram. Anyone know what programs are good for such a thing?
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02-23-2016, 05:00 PM
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Valued Technical Contributor
City: Litchfield, Ct
Join Date: Aug 2012
Posts: 6,785
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Hatteras and Carver are the exceptions. Mainship sure didn't do this, and their wiring diagrams for new boats (until they went bankrupt, wonder why?) are mickey mouse.
Older Grand Banks were good, but not today.
I loved my old Cape Dory power cruiser. In the owner's manual every part was listed with the manufacturer and the part number for that manufacturer. No real wiring diagrams though.
David
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02-23-2016, 05:07 PM
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TF Site Team/Forum Founder
City: League City, Tx
Vessel Name: Floatsome & Jetsome
Vessel Model: Meridian 411
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Quote:
Originally Posted by djmarchand
Hatteras and Carver are the exceptions. Mainship sure didn't do this, and their wiring diagrams for new boats (until they went bankrupt, wonder why?) are mickey mouse.
Older Grand Banks were good, but not today.
I loved my old Cape Dory power cruiser. In the owner's manual every part was listed with the manufacturer and the part number for that manufacturer. No real wiring diagrams though.
David
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I would agree with you there, David. Having owned a Mainship. I will say that I called them on many occasions(before CH11) and they were at least able to point me in the right direction....ie the vendor that made the part. I do think Marlow has passed down the parts department to a third party contractor if I remember correctly. Times were tough then and many times the vendor was out of business. The Ownder's manual was a joke as well. The Owner's manual on the Carver is very useable and provides good information....especially wiring diagrams.
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Prairie 29...Perkins 4236...Sold
Mainship Pilot 30...Yanmar 4LHA-STP...Sold
Carver 356...T-Cummins 330B...Sold
Meridian 411...T-Cummins 450C
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02-23-2016, 05:16 PM
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Guru
City: North Charleston, SC
Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 4,870
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My boat came with complete wiring diagrams and the manufacturer's installation and service information for parts like the engine, pumps, charger and battery combiner, etc.
Most of this stuff is made by someone else, not the boat manufacturer so if, for example, you need to know something about the potable water pump, you can just look at the plate on the pump and then look up "Jabsco XYZ" or whatever. Also, when something like this fails, you don't need a "Jabsco XYZ" pump, just a pump that will fit and do the job.
Of course, better than a manual for the boat and each part would be the same thing in electronic form. It wouldn't weigh as much or take up as much room. Done right, there would be a way to add notes.
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02-23-2016, 06:50 PM
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Guru
City: West Coast
Join Date: Apr 2014
Posts: 1,790
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My builder gave me to file boxes full of manuals, warranties, etc. I digitized the most important stuff, but there are many hard copy documents I will never need to look at. Like the Stidd chair manuals. On the other hand, there are lots of parts not covered by the manuals. Door lock mechanisms come to mind. Not easy to find a direct replacement.
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02-25-2016, 09:46 AM
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Guru
City: Everett Wa
Vessel Name: Eagle
Vessel Model: Roughwater 58 pilot house
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 2,919
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Most boats have a file box with the manual for the stuff. However being male very seldom have I read instructions and manuals. So my wife reads them and tactfully gives me hints suggestions. I figure if it does not work and I can not fix it or bugger it up more, I can have my wife look at it, hire some body who can or most of the time replace it. :hide
So I have a business card file of people to call.
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02-25-2016, 08:55 PM
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Guru
City: Tri Cities, WA
Join Date: Nov 2012
Posts: 4,406
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Sea Ray has done a very good job for me in providing wiring schematics, plumbing diagrams, parts manuals, etc.
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1981 Boston Whaler 13'
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02-26-2016, 07:41 AM
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TF Site Team
City: Seneca Lake NY
Vessel Name: Bacchus
Vessel Model: MS 34 HT Trawler
Join Date: Nov 2014
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Quote:
Originally Posted by djmarchand
Hatteras and Carver are the exceptions. Mainship sure didn't do this, and their wiring diagrams for new boats (until they went bankrupt, wonder why?) are mickey mouse.
David
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David...
I agree re: MS info - I've struggled as well
Have you seen this Marlow-Mainship website?
I have found some useful BOM & schematic diagrams there.
Some are PDF's other Dwh files that need a viewer - some free viewers can be had on the Inet.
The BOM file is a word doc and searchable - not much mfg info but from the description I have been successful finding the mfg w/ an online search using the exact description as listed.
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2008 MS 34 HT Trawler
"Bacchus"
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02-29-2016, 11:15 AM
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TF Site Team/Forum Founder
City: League City, Tx
Vessel Name: Floatsome & Jetsome
Vessel Model: Meridian 411
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GFC
Sea Ray has done a very good job for me in providing wiring schematics, plumbing diagrams, parts manuals, etc.
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That is what I would expect from them!
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Prairie 29...Perkins 4236...Sold
Mainship Pilot 30...Yanmar 4LHA-STP...Sold
Carver 356...T-Cummins 330B...Sold
Meridian 411...T-Cummins 450C
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02-29-2016, 08:02 PM
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Guru
City: Tri Cities, WA
Join Date: Nov 2012
Posts: 4,406
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Some of you may recall that I had some major issues that either started with or resulted in a runaway starter motor on one of my engines. The mechanic has been working on all of the related issues and is getting close to resolving them. Well, he was until he discovered the 24V alternator on that engine was sending 24V to ground. Well now THAT is not a good thing.
So he's continuing with the troubleshooting and we have a new alternator on the way.
I met with him today and in our conversation he said that he has called Sea Ray several times and they have been VERY helpful to him, sending him schematics, offering suggestions and answering all of his questions.
This project was up to a bit over $15K but now with the alternator being replaced I don't know what the total will be. Thank heaven for good insurance.
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Mike and Tina
1981 Boston Whaler 13'
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02-29-2016, 08:50 PM
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Guru
City: Venice Louisiana
Join Date: Dec 2013
Posts: 1,097
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A friends 1980 ish Bertram 60ish foot sportfisher has a very impressive set of manuals. Most of the components are obsolete or have been replaced/upgraded but the books are still helpfull.
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