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Old 11-01-2016, 06:05 PM   #1
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Let Me Clarify

I am a retired naval architect. Although I may offer free opinions here along with everyone else, I no longer offer any professional services or or accept any compensation for anything connected with boat design or engineering.

Evidently, it is a violation of forum rules for me to discuss why I am posting this clarification so you'll have to do the math. Please do not PM me with any questions about boat issues or offers to compensate me in any way. I'm now just another cruiser and do not want to have any discussions about boating matters that are not in the open forum and which I offer freely.
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Old 11-01-2016, 06:43 PM   #2
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Roger, Roger.
And just for the (much younger!) generations, back in the "good ole days," when the world was young, and lots of communications were done via radio, using Morse code, an "R" (dot-dash-dot) meant "received your message, no errors." Got much publicized during WWII, but existed for the ham radio community much earlier. Just saying. Oh, and "Roger" was the phonetic for the letter "R", so if you said it verbally, you said "roger."

Showing my age. And sometimes they "thank me for my service." Wish they would quit that. It was a bad idea, whoever started that. We joined for three squares and a place to crash. If you got shot, then that went with the territory
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Congratulations on the "Retired". It is my favorite word.
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And just for the (much younger!) generations, back in the "good ole days," when the world was young, and lots of communications were done via radio, using Morse code, an "R" (dot-dash-dot) meant "received your message, no errors." Got much publicized during WWII, but existed for the ham radio community much earlier. Just saying. Oh, and "Roger" was the phonetic for the letter "R", so if you said it verbally, you said "roger."

Showing my age. And sometimes they "thank me for my service." Wish they would quit that. It was a bad idea, whoever started that. We joined for three squares and a place to crash. If you got shot, then that went with the territory
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Even now in two way communication, I still prefer 'Roger to 'Affirmative', seeing a simple 'Yes', is still not considered de rigeur...

Most of this rather pedantic communication technique , as John has indicated, grew from morse code, then to old analogue radio, which still had a lot of hiss and crackle. So spelling out the letters with a recognised word, e.g. whiskey tango foxtrot, did help avoid mistakes, but with today's communication all being via a digital medium, where it is either perfect, or not heard at all, I can't understand why simple words are not now used, as on a telephone conversation, but maybe that's just me..?
It does sort of add to the mystique I suppose...
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What about "Wilco"??
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What about "Wilco"??
Means "Will Do (or comply)" the two together would be like, "Yes dear, I know you want the lawn mowed and I'll do it right now."
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What about "Wilco"??
In 2 ways radio communications, "roger" means "message received," and "wilco" is short for "will comply."

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Means "Will Do (or comply)" the two together would be like, "Yes dear, I know you want the lawn mowed and I'll do it right now."
That's why we live on a boat.
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Even now in two way communication, I still prefer 'Roger to 'Affirmative', seeing a simple 'Yes', is still not considered de rigeur...
"Roger" and "Affirmative" mean two different things. Roger means that you received the message and understand. Affirmative simply means "yes". It bothers me when I ask a yes/no question and someone answers "Roger".

Down here where all the tow captains are cajun and barely speak perceptible English, using proper phraseology helps tremendously as I can barely understand them anyway.
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In Puget Sound there is a boat named "Wabbit." It's always funny to hear the VHF reply "Roger Wabbit."
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