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11-01-2016, 06:05 PM
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Senior Member
City: Albany, NY
Vessel Name: Gypsy Star
Vessel Model: Gulf Star 43
Join Date: Jul 2015
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Let Me Clarify
I am a retired naval architect. Although I may offer free opinions here along with everyone else, I no longer offer any professional services or or accept any compensation for anything connected with boat design or engineering.
Evidently, it is a violation of forum rules for me to discuss why I am posting this clarification so you'll have to do the math. Please do not PM me with any questions about boat issues or offers to compensate me in any way. I'm now just another cruiser and do not want to have any discussions about boating matters that are not in the open forum and which I offer freely.
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11-01-2016, 06:43 PM
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Enigma
City: Slicker?
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 16,563
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Roger, Roger.
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RTF
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11-01-2016, 06:53 PM
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Moderator Emeritus
City: St. Marks, Florida
Vessel Name: Morgan
Vessel Model: Gulfstar 36
Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 3,673
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RT Firefly
Roger, Roger.
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And just for the (much younger!) generations, back in the "good ole days," when the world was young, and lots of communications were done via radio, using Morse code, an "R" (dot-dash-dot) meant "received your message, no errors." Got much publicized during WWII, but existed for the ham radio community much earlier. Just saying. Oh, and "Roger" was the phonetic for the letter "R", so if you said it verbally, you said "roger."
Showing my age. And sometimes they "thank me for my service." Wish they would quit that. It was a bad idea, whoever started that. We joined for three squares and a place to crash. If you got shot, then that went with the territory
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11-01-2016, 07:11 PM
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Veteran Member
City: Jefferson Ma.
Vessel Name: Anegada da Vida
Vessel Model: 1979 Mainship 34 mk1
Join Date: Jun 2013
Posts: 83
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Congratulations on the "Retired". It is my favorite word.
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11-01-2016, 07:58 PM
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Master and Commander
City: Vallejo CA
Vessel Name: Carquinez Coot
Vessel Model: penultimate Seahorse Marine Coot hull #6
Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 12,559
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jdud133
..."Retired" ... is my favorite word.
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11-01-2016, 08:23 PM
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Guru
City: Beaufort, NC USA
Vessel Name: Sylphide
Vessel Model: Kingston Aluminum Yacht 44' Custom
Join Date: Aug 2014
Posts: 2,228
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jwnall
And just for the (much younger!) generations, back in the "good ole days," when the world was young, and lots of communications were done via radio, using Morse code, an "R" (dot-dash-dot) meant "received your message, no errors." Got much publicized during WWII, but existed for the ham radio community much earlier. Just saying. Oh, and "Roger" was the phonetic for the letter "R", so if you said it verbally, you said "roger."
Showing my age. And sometimes they "thank me for my service." Wish they would quit that. It was a bad idea, whoever started that. We joined for three squares and a place to crash. If you got shot, then that went with the territory
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I learned something new today! Thanks for that.
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11-01-2016, 09:50 PM
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TF Site Team
City: Ex-Brisbane, (Australia), now Bribie Island, Qld
Vessel Name: Now boatless - sold 6/2018
Vessel Model: Had a Clipper (CHB) 34
Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 10,101
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Even now in two way communication, I still prefer 'Roger to 'Affirmative', seeing a simple 'Yes', is still not considered de rigeur...
Most of this rather pedantic communication technique , as John has indicated, grew from morse code, then to old analogue radio, which still had a lot of hiss and crackle. So spelling out the letters with a recognised word, e.g. whiskey tango foxtrot, did help avoid mistakes, but with today's communication all being via a digital medium, where it is either perfect, or not heard at all, I can't understand why simple words are not now used, as on a telephone conversation, but maybe that's just me..?
It does sort of add to the mystique I suppose...
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11-01-2016, 11:06 PM
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Senior Member
City: Orange Beach, AL
Join Date: Jan 2016
Posts: 150
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What about "Wilco"??
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11-01-2016, 11:32 PM
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Senior Member
City: Albany, NY
Vessel Name: Gypsy Star
Vessel Model: Gulf Star 43
Join Date: Jul 2015
Posts: 451
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Quote:
Originally Posted by hjorgan
What about "Wilco"??
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Means "Will Do (or comply)" the two together would be like, "Yes dear, I know you want the lawn mowed and I'll do it right now."
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11-02-2016, 12:13 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2015
Posts: 494
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Quote:
Originally Posted by hjorgan
What about "Wilco"??
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In 2 ways radio communications, "roger" means "message received," and "wilco" is short for "will comply."
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11-02-2016, 08:24 AM
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Guru
City: Stuart FL
Vessel Name: Lucky Lucky
Vessel Model: Pacific Mariner 65
Join Date: Aug 2013
Posts: 2,760
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Roger Long
Means "Will Do (or comply)" the two together would be like, "Yes dear, I know you want the lawn mowed and I'll do it right now."
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That's why we live on a boat.
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Lucky Lucky
Stuart, FL
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11-02-2016, 10:48 AM
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TF Site Team/Forum Founder
City: League City, Tx
Vessel Name: Floatsome & Jetsome
Vessel Model: Meridian 411
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 7,332
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Peter B
Even now in two way communication, I still prefer 'Roger to 'Affirmative', seeing a simple 'Yes', is still not considered de rigeur...
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"Roger" and "Affirmative" mean two different things. Roger means that you received the message and understand. Affirmative simply means "yes". It bothers me when I ask a yes/no question and someone answers "Roger".
Down here where all the tow captains are cajun and barely speak perceptible English, using proper phraseology helps tremendously as I can barely understand them anyway.
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11-02-2016, 12:02 PM
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Guru
City: Inside Passage Summer/Columbia River Winter
Vessel Name: Alaskan Sea-Duction
Vessel Model: 1988 M/Y Camargue YachtFisher
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 8,050
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Welcome Roger! Glad to have you here....
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11-02-2016, 01:06 PM
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Guru
City: Duvall, Wa. USA
Vessel Name: Beach Music II
Vessel Model: 2003 Mainship 430 Trawler
Join Date: Aug 2014
Posts: 1,040
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In Puget Sound there is a boat named "Wabbit." It's always funny to hear the VHF reply "Roger Wabbit."
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