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02-27-2020, 06:34 PM
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Guru
City: Port Townsend Washington
Vessel Name: " OTTER "
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BruceK
Let`s not make it a political issue. It`s about the safety and comfort of all water users. Those who operate vessels to the serious detriment of others should change behavior and if it takes legislation or regulation so be it. Jetskis are banned from Sydney Harbour due to generalized misconduct, and rightly so imo.
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The problem of banning "jetskis" is that it is not the watercraft that is at issue, its the way it is commonly used. The problem I have with banning them is the same moron that spins doughnuts on a jetski.. can do it in a boat (but it isn't nearly as fun). Its like outlawing all cars because some folks speed. Regulate the action, not the machine. Have you seen the people that offshore fish on a jetski?, so if that guy navigates out of his marina in a thoughtful and cautious manner it should be illegal?. Dont get me wrong.. I have been buzzed by jetskis and its no fun.. but i did motion to the guy to come alongside and asked nicely if he could do it further away from the boats and he got the hint and moved away. The water is for ALL of us.. how we use it around others is what allows us keep doing what we love.
And as you might of guessed I AM a snowboarder and a snow skier, wake boarder and water skier, kite boarder and ride dirt bikes drive fast cars and I shoot black guns.. but I do try to not negatively impact others in my pursuit of Adrenalin.
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02-27-2020, 06:53 PM
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City: Aventura FL
Vessel Name: Kinja
Vessel Model: American Tug 34 #116 2008
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Let's face it, the reason there is a speed limit on the ICW is to prevent death and injury to things that live in the ICW (manatee), bank erosion and damage to boats tied to docks, prevent the discomfort of rocking and rolling to those boats anchored and other boats traversing the ICW.
Now here some boats designed to create large wakes so people can ride their boards.
Where is the logic?
Soooo, if you wanna create a big wake, take it outside to the ocean. Give the dolphins some excitement too.
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02-27-2020, 07:13 PM
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Scraping Paint
City: Lake Stevens, WA via Honolulu
Vessel Name: 'Au Kai (Ocean Traveler)
Vessel Model: C-Dory 25
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I'm reminded of the song;
Sign, sign, everywhere a sign
Blockin' out the scenery, breakin' my mind
Do this, don't do that, can't you read the sign?
I think we need to outlaw spoons. I saw a fat person...
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02-27-2020, 07:36 PM
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Guru
City: Sydney
Vessel Name: Sojourn
Vessel Model: Integrity 386
Join Date: Oct 2011
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Quote:
Originally Posted by hollywood8118
The problem of banning "jetskis" is that it is not the watercraft that is at issue, its the way it is commonly used. The problem I have with banning them is the same moron that spins doughnuts on a jetski.. can do it in a boat (but it isn't nearly as fun). Its like outlawing all cars because some folks speed. Regulate the action, not the machine. Have you seen the people that offshore fish on a jetski?, so if that guy navigates out of his marina in a thoughtful and cautious manner it should be illegal?. Dont get me wrong.. I have been buzzed by jetskis and its no fun.. but i did motion to the guy to come alongside and asked nicely if he could do it further away from the boats and he got the hint and moved away. The water is for ALL of us.. how we use it around others is what allows us keep doing what we love.
And as you might of guessed I AM a snowboarder and a snow skier, wake boarder and water skier, kite boarder and ride dirt bikes drive fast cars and I shoot black guns.. but I do try to not negatively impact others in my pursuit of Adrenalin.
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I agree,education/persuasion before banning. We had idiots using their jetski wake to drive out and drown nestlings in a nest some (I think)sea eagles unwisely built on a channel marker.There was no educating them. Many of the badly behaved on water are badly behaved or even antisocial, in life generally. They don`t respond well to reason, and that`s where limiting their negative impact on others, as you mention, comes in.
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Sydney Australia
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02-27-2020, 07:46 PM
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Guru
City: Aventura FL
Vessel Name: Kinja
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Quote:
Originally Posted by localboy
I'm reminded of the song;
Sign, sign, everywhere a sign
Blockin' out the scenery, breakin' my mind
Do this, don't do that, can't you read the sign?
I think we need to outlaw spoons. I saw a fat person...
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Signs are a reminder of our missing common sense.
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02-27-2020, 08:39 PM
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Guru
City: Inside Passage Summer/Columbia River Winter
Vessel Name: Alaskan Sea-Duction
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Some may not be aware that it is illegal to run a "jetski" in San Juan county. Aka the San Juan islands in state of Washington..
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02-27-2020, 08:58 PM
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City: Tri Cities, WA
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Since I started carrying a spud gun on the boat the wakeboard boats tend to give us a wide berth.
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02-27-2020, 09:16 PM
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Guru
City: Aventura FL
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GFC
Since I started carrying a spud gun on the boat the wakeboard boats tend to give us a wide berth.
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Would be better if you had a reasonably high pressure water cannon. No projectiles to connect you to the event. WINK
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02-27-2020, 10:17 PM
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Guru
City: Inside Passage Summer/Columbia River Winter
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Or a pump on my riverboat. Angle it just right apply a short burst of throttle and everyone is wet
Quote:
Originally Posted by OldDan1943
Would be better if you had a reasonably high pressure water cannon. No projectiles to connect you to the event. WINK
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02-27-2020, 11:23 PM
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Guru
City: Sydney
Vessel Name: Sojourn
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There was a short video posted a while back on TF,some kind of photoshop production. A small heat seeking missile fired from a Hobie cat scored a bullseye on a jetski. Not that anyone would advocate that kind of violence, but it was very cleverly done.
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2005 Integrity 386 "Sojourn"
Sydney Australia
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02-28-2020, 01:03 AM
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Guru
City: SF Bay Area
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Linda and I enjoy watching the youngsters' antics on jet skis, while at anchor, sipping cool ones on our sun deck; underneath the bimini.
We do hand motions as well as cup our hands to our mouths hollering for them to rev things up and do stunts for us. They become our friends for the hour, put on a great show and are very respectful to our boat's whereabouts while they perform for us.
It's good to be [stay] friendly with youngsters. We once were [and occasionally still think we are] "Youngsters"!!
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02-28-2020, 06:26 AM
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Guru
City: Rochester, NY
Vessel Name: Hour Glass
Vessel Model: Chris Craft 381 Catalina
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Along the lines of Art's comments, I've had a few jetskis signal me to power up when I've been going slow, as they wanted to jump my wake (but can't really do that at 7 kts). Depending on the situation, there are times I'd consider going for it.
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02-28-2020, 08:27 AM
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TF Site Team
City: MX, thru Canal to Bahamas
Vessel Name: Muirgen
Vessel Model: 50' Beebe Passagemaker
Join Date: May 2019
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Quote:
Originally Posted by catalinajack
And boards should be banned on ski slopes.
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Inboards or outboards?
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02-28-2020, 10:49 AM
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Guru
City: Ft Pierce
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Quote:
Originally Posted by slowgoesit
Inboards or outboards?
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It's just another singles versus twins argument.....
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02-28-2020, 11:45 AM
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Guru
City: Dewatto
Vessel Name: CHiTON
Vessel Model: Tung Hwa Clipper 30
Join Date: Jan 2020
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I had never seen or heard of wake boarding until on Lake Powell a few years ago in my C Dory. I was on plane and I saw a boat hogging along a quarter mile away and the owner waving the international distress signal. It looked like the boat was going down but still making way. I turned and went towards him and he started waving for me to slow down. Then I could see that somebody was standing in the water behind him. What the ??? By slowing down, I put out a fairly large wake as I continued on. The boater was freaking out. The kid fell off the board. I could hear music blasting. Weird.
Stop playing that flute, I can't hear my handgun. There are some "multiple uses" that just don't work together.
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02-28-2020, 11:29 PM
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Senior Member
City: Portland, OR
Vessel Name: Serendipity
Vessel Model: 1977 37' Puget Trawler
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Alaskan Sea-Duction
Or a pump on my riverboat. Angle it just right apply a short burst of throttle and everyone is wet
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Personally, I think wake boats (not jet skis) should require a license. The fee to acquire this license is to buy Tom a new Dockhouse every year in penance.
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02-29-2020, 05:41 AM
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Guru
City: Fort Myers, FL... Summers in the Great Lakes
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Interesting, I've never seen a wake boat in action. Is this primarily a West coast thing?
Ted
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I'm tired of fast moves, I've got a slow groove, on my mind.....
I want to spend some time, Not come and go in a heated rush.....
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02-29-2020, 07:13 AM
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Senior Member
City: Baltimore, MD
Vessel Name: Starshine
Vessel Model: 1989 Bayliner 3288
Join Date: Aug 2014
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Quote:
Originally Posted by O C Diver
Interesting, I've never seen a wake boat in action. Is this primarily a West coast thing?
Ted
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It’s very popular on the inland lakes and rivers in the East. Lower Susquehanna River behind the dams, Lake Raystown etc. I really don’t see it in the Chesapeake.
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02-29-2020, 11:11 AM
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Guru
City: Inside Passage Summer/Columbia River Winter
Vessel Name: Alaskan Sea-Duction
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Quote:
Originally Posted by WayneDana2
Personally, I think wake boats (not jet skis) should require a license. The fee to acquire this license is to buy Tom a new Dockhouse every year in penance.
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Well I almost forgot that.
A jet riverboat's (not a wake boat) wake tore my 12 X 12 shed away from the dock. 58K of damage. He was found guilty of reckless operation of a boat. Ordered to pay 34K in damages at $50 a month.
However: This all happened in a "No Wake" zone.
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02-29-2020, 06:23 PM
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Scraping Paint
City: Lake Stevens, WA via Honolulu
Vessel Name: 'Au Kai (Ocean Traveler)
Vessel Model: C-Dory 25
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Quote:
Originally Posted by O C Diver
Interesting, I've never seen a wake boat in action. Is this primarily a West coast thing?
Ted
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Popular with the younger generation on lakes, rivers etc, as flat water is a must have. The youngsters that would snowboard, skateboard, surf etc would be inclined to wake-board/wake-surf. One can either use a single wake-board (much like a snowboard) with boot /foot attachments or surf the large wakes on a small surfboard,right behind the boat, with no boots. Jumping the wake in wake-boarding takes skill and practice and is athletic as hell.
I've done both in my younger days, but preferred the wake-surfing as it mimics real surfing that I have done my entire life. Also no boots makes the possibility of injury much less, as you simply fall off the board. Wake-surfing also requires much slower speeds than wake-boarding, which again cuts down on the chance of injury, especially lower extremity injuries.
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