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Old 06-14-2018, 10:56 PM   #21
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Do they balk at two bowlines, boat side at the ready?
You're required to have two 50-foot lock lines, each with an eye at least 12 inches in diameter. Bowlines are fine in lieu of a spliced loop. If you're locking up from salt water to the Ship Canal at low tide (in the large lock), they'll throw down a light messenger line because you'll be 20 or more feet below the edge of the lock. That's where the sheet bend comes in. If they have scores of boats to cram in there, as they often do on nice summer weekends, they appreciate not having to untie the tangles that a lot of folks create.
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[QUOTE=Donna;672707]I canít tie a knot to save my life. I hired out.[/QUOT

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Old 06-15-2018, 01:09 AM   #24
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Rolling hitch/Clove hitch
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Of the knots and hitches we use routinely... only a few happen during a normal transit.

Bowline, trucker's hitch (securing the dinghy), Figure 8 stoppers (for the whips through our fenders... and these are all mostly static, usually not (!) tied anew every day.

But arriving at a transient dock usually sees us just using cleat hitches (knot, or not) or clove hitches, sometimes maybe two half hitches, and cow hitches for the fenders.

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You're required to have two 50-foot lock lines, each with an eye at least 12 inches in diameter. Bowlines are fine in lieu of a spliced loop. If you're locking up from salt water to the Ship Canal at low tide (in the large lock), they'll throw down a light messenger line because you'll be 20 or more feet below the edge of the lock. That's where the sheet bend comes in. If they have scores of boats to cram in there, as they often do on nice summer weekends, they appreciate not having to untie the tangles that a lot of folks create.
Got it. My concern on the sheet bend is that it requires the messenger end to be kept somewhat taut to keep the pinch point. Whereas a bowline, while it take a few seconds longer to undo, will keep. Or do you find the sheet bend holds regardless?
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Got it. My concern on the sheet bend is that it requires the messenger end to be kept somewhat taut to keep the pinch point. Whereas a bowline, while it take a few seconds longer to undo, will keep. Or do you find the sheet bend holds regardless?


Rarely use a sheet bend, but I did use it with a mooring hook (canít recall the name but it is pretty nice) that used a small messenger to pass the mooring line through the ring on the top of a mooring ball.

The messenger would sometimes slip so I ended up using a sheet bend with an extra wrap. Not sure if the knot has a name, but it worked quite well and was easy to tie and untie.
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Double slip knot is tops. Used routinely to tie shoes which I do several times a day. Consider mastery the second most memorable accomplishment as a child.
Mark, form two lace loops and tie a square knot with a extra locking turn. Never have to re-tie again.
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Mark, form two lace loops and tie a square knot with a extra locking turn. Never have to re-tie again.


Back when I was a runner, I used a shoelace knot that would never come untied, was easy to tie, and easy to untie. It is essentially the same as the typical double slip knot with an extra round turn. I couldnít describe it very well so I just demonstrated.

https://youtu.be/tJCXS7Pm0xs
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Back when I was a runner, I used a shoelace knot that would never come untied, was easy to tie, and easy to untie. It is essentially the same as the typical double slip knot with an extra round turn. I couldnít describe it very well so I just demonstrated.

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Bowline, Figure-8, 2 Half-Hitches, Reef Knot, and Sheet Bend, in that order.
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Is a cleat hitch a knot?
LOL, Nope.

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And you guys don't have shoe laces?
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LOL, Nope. Flip flops, loafers, and I replaced my laces on my casual shoes with elastic laces and a slide lock. I haven't 'tied' shoelaces in about 18 minths. then again, I haven't actualy worn shoes in about 1 month.

I have a Wedding on Sunday, so this should be interesting Pants AND Shoes. Yikes!
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cleat hitch
Turn with 2 1/2 hitches.
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Bowline (rarely, I prefer a Figure eight since it's more easily releasable/breakable)
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I have a Wedding on Sunday, so this should be interesting Pants AND Shoes. Yikes!
Then you can bump a half-Windsor or four-in-hand back into your list, along with the shoelace knot, or whatever it's called.
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