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Old 11-05-2017, 12:06 PM   #101
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Not directed at anyone specifically....

So far, who here is qualified to start and finish a boating accident investigation?

OK, back it down a notch, who here has breaking inlet experience to be unchallenged in their assessment?

Hey lots of opinions and observations, not a lot of "facts"....sit back, have your say, but don't expect everyone or even anyone to agree with you.
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Old 11-05-2017, 12:21 PM   #102
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Not directed at anyone specifically....

So far, who here is qualified to start and finish a boating accident investigation?

OK, back it down a notch, who here has breaking inlet experience to be unchallenged in their assessment?

Hey lots of opinions and observations, not a lot of "facts"....sit back, have your say, but don't expect everyone or even anyone to agree with you.
Copy that.
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Old 11-05-2017, 01:01 PM   #103
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Not directed at anyone specifically....

So far, who here is qualified to start and finish a boating accident investigation?

OK, back it down a notch, who here has breaking inlet experience to be unchallenged in their assessment?

Hey lots of opinions and observations, not a lot of "facts"....sit back, have your say, but don't expect everyone or even anyone to agree with you.
agree; I'm on record to say I would have sunk the boat too, given all the conditions.
I don't know why the eyewitness is not allowed to give opinions, etc. We all have and are sitting a long ways away from scene and at least in theory, have much less to go on.
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Old 11-05-2017, 01:47 PM   #104
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Not directed at anyone specifically....

So far, who here is qualified to start and finish a boating accident investigation?

OK, back it down a notch, who here has breaking inlet experience to be unchallenged in their assessment?

Hey lots of opinions and observations, not a lot of "facts"....sit back, have your say, but don't expect everyone or even anyone to agree with you.
None of us have the facts in this event. We have no idea what was happening before he hit the waves. We have no idea what the boat was carrying. We have no idea of the condition of the operator or of how well he managed the situation. Some of us have more breaking inlet experience than others but that doesn't get us to answers that an investigation might. Some of us have captained boats through that inlet, but not that boat in whatever condition it was in. We may even know some of the questions to ask but we don't have access to do so and it's not our job to do so.
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Old 11-05-2017, 03:11 PM   #105
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I believe Drone guy was right on the money regarding the power setting. Looks like the operator was "on plane" (with the bow slightly up) at the very start of the video. Then at the precise moment that he reached the back side of the first big wave, he abruptly yanked the power back and the boat immediately does the ol' off-plane "mush". The bow was accelerating/pitching downward just from that action. The wave obviously made it worse. Easy to arm chair quarter back, but I suspect the boat would have made it if he had fire walled it and bashed over/through the short coupled waves in the inlet. Helluva ride, though.
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Old 11-05-2017, 03:39 PM   #106
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Let's sit back, take a deep breath and relax.
We may never know the real reason nor what the operator was thinking.
Anything we may say would be 'Monday morning coaching.'
I suspect the final conclusion will be operator error complicated by the sea condition at the time of the incident.
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Old 11-05-2017, 04:07 PM   #107
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Something isnít right here. Are used to run a 24 foot sea rain weekend her. I would always come in pretty fast on the inlets. Never had a problem but I was always super high. I think there something we donít know about here.
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Greetings,
Ms. D. I don't think it wise to use the wording "...but I was always super high..."
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Ms. D. I don't think it wise to use the wording "...but I was always super high..."
Fishing for square grouper I presume. ....
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This thread is in the top ten for entertainment value.
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Boy you guys are tough on drone guy, he posted comments about a video we are all lucky enough to have seen because he was there at the time.. he gives HIS opinion ( he was there or pretty close)... and you guys grill him. If I was him I would tell you all F. U. delete my posts and make sure trawler forum never got any of my drone footage again.
Drone Guy, thanks for the video .. and your first hand observations.
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I agree 100% with Hollywood. We all express our opinions and those opinions are based on our perceptions, on our experience, what we observe, etc.

Why should we expect Drone Guy to be any different or be hold to a higher standard regarding his opinions.

Drone Guy, thanks for posting what you have on TF. I, for one, appreciate that you took the time to enlighten us. If some members chose to ignore or be critical of what you said, that's fine. I get that done to my posts from time to time. It just shows that their opinion differs from yours. Don't take offense because someone on TF disagrees and please don't quit posting our videos.
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This thread has everything that is good.....and everything that is bad, with internet forums.

There is a theory ( I forget the name of it..) that if any online discussion goes on long enough, it will eventually reference Hitler. We're at 6 pages so far....should we start a pool ?
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Ms. D. I don't think it wise to use the wording "...but I was always super high..."
Yup, certainly could have used better wording! Lol! Like maybe coming in super hot! 😳
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Yup, certainly could have used better wording! Lol! Like maybe coming in super hot! 😳
Wifey B: And you are always super hot.
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Drone Guy could have been treated better, I`m embarrassed by some responses.
Not sure where the part about water in the bow pre crossing came from, but it looks a factor.
Congrats to the rescue surfer, he saved the operator from abrasions on the rocks,and maybe more.
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Boy you guys are tough on drone guy, he posted comments about a video we are all lucky enough to have seen because he was there at the time.. he gives HIS opinion ( he was there or pretty close)... and you guys grill him. If I was him I would tell you all F. U. delete my posts and make sure trawler forum never got any of my drone footage again.
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On the news, the surfer kid was asked what he did afterwards... He replied "I went back surfing, the waves were good!"

Congrats to the rescue surfer, he saved the operator from abrasions on the rocks,and maybe more.[/QUOTE]
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FWIW - I like the videos, too. Keep up that cool work!
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Greetings,
Ms. D. I don't think it wise to use the wording "...but I was always super high..."
Maybe she was???
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