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Old 09-23-2022, 06:26 PM   #1
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Interesting motor-sailor

Here's a French one they say compares well to the Nordhaven when 56. It has a range of 2500 miles, at 9 kts. 18 meters. The second part of the PDF is in English.
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Old 09-23-2022, 06:58 PM   #2
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Greetings,
Mr. JW. Nice looking boat but the fact she was built at a submarine base makes me go hmmmm....

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Old 09-23-2022, 07:18 PM   #3
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It could mean they're used to making boats that are actually watertight. And indeed, its advertised as a self righting boat.
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Old 09-26-2022, 02:48 AM   #4
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Old 09-26-2022, 08:35 AM   #5
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LC 62, thanks for the extra fotos on this nice boat. If no wind at all, it can still motor around the world.
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Interesting ,

But why the rigging so aft ?
why no centerboard or "side board" because under sail downwind it could be ok but by the side the drift will be amazing !!
And , but personal the roof was to complicated and lost internal volume for two stair
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Interesting ,

But why the rigging so aft ?
why no centerboard or "side board" because under sail downwind it could be ok but by the side the drift will be amazing !!
And , but personal the roof was to complicated and lost internal volume for two stair
Not sure what their rationale was. Anyway, for me the only sails I would ever have are kite sails, or wing sails. Check out the French wing sail on the Zen 50. A boat that doesn't even require a genset.
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Interesting ,

But why the rigging so aft ?
why no centerboard or "side board" because under sail downwind it could be ok but by the side the drift will be amazing !!
And , but personal the roof was to complicated and lost internal volume for two stair
I think the sail plan is optimized for off-the-wind sailing. Keeping the
foredeck clear of stays is a small plus and you could still tack a big headsail to the stem.
Running or reaching downwind doesn't require as much keel as beating.
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As a motorsailer, its sail rig is a major propulsion contributor. Why would it have 2 engines? Strange
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As a motorsailer, its sail rig is a major propulsion contributor. Why would it have 2 engines? Strange
The French are like that sometimes.
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The French are like that sometimes.
They want do like American motor sailor concept Seaton Neville like ...Cheoy Lee 53', 63' 78'
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They want do like American motor sailor concept Seaton Neville like ...Cheoy Lee 53', 63' 78'
OK. But in general, do you prefer these Bernard Chandler boats, over the Meta ones? For me....Meta Strongal.
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I like the tick alloy when it is on normal structure , Meta is tick alloy on ... near nothing and always the form are basic no curve or even try to "mask" the angle.
For example take a look at the typical Meta "King Atalntic"

https://www.ayc-yachtbroker.com/traw...lantique-13m75
it could be nicest.
Like Garcia

https://www.powerandmotoryacht.com/b...cia-trawler-54
unfortunately this trawler had a very "curious" end ...
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I like the tick alloy when it is on normal structure , Meta is tick alloy on ... near nothing and always the form are basic no curve or even try to "mask" the angle.
For example take a look at the typical Meta "King Atalntic"

https://www.ayc-yachtbroker.com/traw...lantique-13m75
it could be nicest.
Like Garcia

https://www.powerandmotoryacht.com/b...cia-trawler-54
unfortunately this trawler had a very "curious" end ...
Fair enough , but not sure how thick the Garcia boat hull is. The Metas are about 16mm if I remember right..
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another nice hull :
Motor yacht, Architecte naval

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another nice hull :
Motor yacht, Architecte naval

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The Balta 16 m


oups I saw after it was on the balta website :-)
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http://www.balta.fr/etoile%20express/photos/speed.mp4On the same website a "trawler" http://www.balta.fr/etoile%20express...ss%20media.mp4
http://www.balta.fr/etoile%20express.html
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