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Old 06-28-2022, 05:48 PM   #11781
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OK, let me clarify "dream yacht": steel or aluminum hull, series hybrid electric power train, ocean crossing, loads of solar on the pilothouse roof, large enough to live aboard comfortably, but small enough that two people can handle it.

Works for me as well if the $$ worked.
But with all the noise about insurance companies and non insuring of lithium I'd have concerns

No way I would ever have large lithium ion on board which it seems these use.

Lifepo4, not a problem.
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Old 06-29-2022, 10:22 AM   #11782
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Looks interesting, but a tad big for my area... and a lot of info missing. I'm not the guy to buy the "first" of anything... I'll let someone else work out the bugs, and there's always bugs.


However, like the design, but wonder how well it would single hand?

Don't like the Volvo generator, but suspect there's an option.


Seems like Volvo is a common solution for OEM boats... they must be paying the builders to take them. No one likes them.


Back to the electric... seems like not quite enough power, but who knows.
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Old 06-29-2022, 10:25 AM   #11783
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Mr. S. "...they must be paying the builders to take them." From what I've heard (pure hearsay), Volvo does not charge the builder for the motor(s) until the boat they're installed in is sold. Meaning, to me at least, the builder has no real investment in the power plant, at all.
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Old 06-29-2022, 11:01 AM   #11784
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Mr. S. "...they must be paying the builders to take them." From what I've heard (pure hearsay), Volvo does not charge the builder for the motor(s) until the boat they're installed in is sold. Meaning, to me at least, the builder has no real investment in the power plant, at all.
That's how my const. co "sells" smallish [a few K to $20K +/-] construction projects... no installation-payment required till job completed. Works well to get homeowners and small businesses to be customers. Often additional projects requested too. Just last week installed a beautiful redwood gated arbor for Nancy... that's my 4th completed project for her in 15 years. I can pretty much suss out if a person will pay or not; before agreeing to perform work. Over the years... There are several I've bid good-day to before becoming entrenched.

Seeing as my company always performs well completed buildouts my customers have no problem paying up. Over many years... the few who have not paid because they simply tried to be A-holes had to deal directly with me... and... that's not fun!
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Old 06-29-2022, 01:36 PM   #11785
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Old 06-30-2022, 03:20 AM   #11786
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Evidently Venice, Italy. Just fiddling around, I expect...
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Old 06-30-2022, 06:53 AM   #11787
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Evidently Venice, Italy. Just fiddling around, I expect...
It's a real vessel, not a photoshop. https://marineindustrynews.co.uk/wat...hes-in-venice/
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Old 06-30-2022, 08:13 AM   #11789
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Very nice. I question the "ocean crossing" thing, for a few reasons. But otherwise it seems like a great design.
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Old 06-30-2022, 08:28 AM   #11790
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Evidently Venice, Italy. Just fiddling around, I expect...

In the key of "Sea" no doubt.
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Old 06-30-2022, 01:34 PM   #11792
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That's really neat... I need one. How is it powered? Captain hiding in there? or just tethered?
I'll also need a Cello one, a Clarinet, Trombone and Sax one, too.... for a complete band.
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Mr. S. Sorry. this is the best I could do on such short notice...





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Reminded of the flood affected musical household. Daughter floated away on the double bass, her sister accompanied her on the piano.
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If we want to discuss something serious.............to me this is a real game changer. If what they say is true than this is going to change the 'tender world' for super and mega yachts, but also for the normal day cruiser.

I have not tried one of these, so have to rely on what they claim. If anyone has better information I am all ears.
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If we want to discuss something serious.............to me this is a real game changer. If what they say is true than this is going to change the 'tender world' for super and mega yachts, but also for the normal day cruiser.

I have not tried one of these, so have to rely on what they claim. If anyone has better information I am all ears.
Not bad... but not quite "IT" yet - IMO.

Wonder the initial cost and cost for a top of the line battery change in approx every 10 yrs?. Of course, in 10 yrs batt tech will be on improved level - we hope!

Noticed the fellow said "3 to 5 hours operation at 20 mph" That a very wide span of hours to state. Makes me think the lower 3-hours may be reality. Also said "6 hours to fully recharge". If you want to use [cruise] the boat for the day, and you start in the early morning... by mid day at latest - you're stuck for 6 hr recharge!

Regarding range: 3 to 5 hours as max time at 20 mph = 60 to 100 miles till 6 hour charge. Doable as long as the electric hook up is available where batt power runs too low. I may have missed it... but... Is charging done off 30 or 50 amp box? Is 120v or 240 v needed for charging in 6 hours?

Like I mentioned above: Not bad... but not quite "IT" yet - IMO.
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This is an interesting boat and inexpensive. One error in the listing is that the boat is built of wood, which is described in the detailed text of the listing, but the summary lists it as fiberglass.

https://www.yachtworld.com/yacht/197...awler-8377886/
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That is Strumpet, Ernest Gann’s boat. I’d walk around it and stare every time we stopped at Ft. Monroe. Great, salty looking boat.
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This is an interesting boat and inexpensive. One error in the listing is that the boat is built of wood, which is described in the detailed text of the listing, but the summary lists it as fiberglass.

https://www.yachtworld.com/yacht/197...awler-8377886/
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t know she was on the east coast... Pics make her look like she is still in good shape, maintained...Lot of history there
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