Interesting boats

[Simi 60]

I would also suggest that the fuel burn is / side

 

[rslifkin]

I would also suggest that the fuel burn is / side

I don't think so. Using one engine's fuel burn to calculate NMPG certainly wouldn't make sense. They're quoting just shy of 50 gal/hr at WOT, which is about right for total burn at WOT with 2x 500hp diesels.

 

[Simi 60]

I don't think so. Using one engine's fuel burn to calculate NMPG certainly wouldn't make sense. They're quoting just shy of 50 gal/hr at WOT, which is about right for total burn at WOT with 2x 500hp diesels.

Yeah, you are right
Just had a look, small engines 8.3L vs our 14L

 

[socalrider]

It's a longer boat than yours. Relative to hull speed, 7.5 kts is fast for a 41 footer (with probably a 35 - 37 foot waterline), but that same 7.5 kts is reasonably slow for a 55 footer with probably a 50-ish foot waterline. Slow your boat down to 6.5 kts or a little less (similar speed relative to hull speed) and I bet your fuel economy will improve significantly.

BoatDiesel calculator says 81hp (total) for 7.5kts in the Fleming 55 (40t, 50' LWL, and 54hp for the same speed in my CHB (17T. 37' LWL). Are my FL120s really 50% less efficient than the 500hp QSC 8.3's at those outputs?

Slowing my boat down to 6.5kts drops hp to 35hp total. 8.5kts = 80hp total. Makes me want to re-power with a pair of Beta 50's!

 

[Adopo]

This is a boat I saw in Ketchikan, finally got around to googling it. Hardy souls who take on adventures such as this. Have to admire them.

https://westsidenewsny.com/features/2020-08-24/sailing-around-the-world/

https://www.thenorthernlight.com/stories/around-the-world-russian-ship-docks-in-blaine-harbor,17245

 

[cardude01]

Here’s a “Cheap” project for someone. Needs a little tlc ad says. [emoji848]

Single Cummins, variable pitch prop, heavy fiberglass hull. Pretty cool!

https://www.yachtworld.com/yacht/1986-seaton-custom-lrc-pilothouse-trawler-8111854/

 

[MvCaptainConner]

Here’s a “Cheap” project for someone. Needs a little tlc ad says. [emoji848]

Single Cummins, variable pitch prop, heavy fiberglass hull. Pretty cool!

https://www.yachtworld.com/yacht/1986-seaton-custom-lrc-pilothouse-trawler-8111854/

Why would it have dual controls and gauges with a single shaft and prop?
Something doesn’t seem right….

 

[Alaskaflyer]

Why would it have dual controls and gauges with a single shaft and prop?

Something doesn’t seem right….

The lever on the port side likely controls the pitch of the controllable pitch propeller. The ones on the right control throttle and transmission.

Edit: hmmm. The left control has two levers also. Don’t know why that would be needed for the pitch.

 

[BruceK]

I saw that, wondered if there is a wing "get home" engine. Advert doesn`t say so,but it`s "under construction". It doesn`t look as in need of repair as price suggests, there are questions.

 

[Mako]

TLC??? Sounds like it sank at the dock or something. Anyone know the back-story to it?

 

[backinblue]

"One of Only Two Seaton Cruising Trawlers Built by Mar Marine of Danbury, CT"

Lived in CT all my life and worked a long time in Danbury. Never heard or Mar Marine. Also Danbury is land-locked, seems a strange place to build large trawlers.

 

[backinblue]

This is a boat I saw in Ketchikan, finally got around to googling it. Hardy souls who take on adventures such as this. Have to admire them.

https://westsidenewsny.com/features/2020-08-24/sailing-around-the-world/

https://www.thenorthernlight.com/stories/around-the-world-russian-ship-docks-in-blaine-harbor,17245

Interestng boat for sure. Although "sailing around the world" included at least a couple thousand miles over land. Not taking anything away from them though.

 

[OldDan1943]

"One of Only Two Seaton Cruising Trawlers Built by Mar Marine of Danbury, CT"

Lived in CT all my life and worked a long time in Danbury. Never heard or Mar Marine. Also Danbury is land-locked, seems a strange place to build large trawlers.

Many years ago, I looked and an sea trialed a Seaton trawler. The fwd water tight door was sprung and the hull was blistered. PLUS, there were German cockroaches running around the bilge.
MY surveyor was NO help and seemed to be the best buddy of the owner.
I may not be the smartest old man but, I have been around long ago to determine, my surveyor was not on my side.

 

[wkearney99]

The 'Mar Marine' comment is echoed on this listing from what might be the same boat?

https://www.luxuryatch.com/1986-seaton-custom-lrc-pilothouse-trawler/

A check of the helm pix shows they might be of the same vessel, but with some small changes/upgrades? The labels and wires running up the windshield look almost exactly the same.
https://images.boatsgroup.com/resize/1/18/54/8111854_20211117152428660_1_XLARGE.jpg
https://www.luxuryatch.com/wp-content/uploads/1986-seaton-custom-lrc-pilothouse-trawler--9.jpg

The web.archive.org database shows that page came online back in 2015. So it seems like Knota-Nuff and Majestic are the same boat.

 

[Adopo]

For some reason I'm a sucker for a canoe stern boat. And love the Willard. Looks like really low hours and extremely clean. I assume this has been rebuilt or re powered?

https://www.yachtworld.com/yacht/2002-willard-marine-40-pilothousetrawler-8083946/

 

[Alaskaflyer]

Compare it to Lilliana listed in our own for sale forum.

Were they still being manufactured by Willard Marine in 2002?

 

[Adopo]

Compare it to Lilliana listed in our own for sale forum.

Were they still being manufactured by Willard Marine in 2002?

Interesting, Lilliana to me is more cruise ready at half the price at least as far as set up.

 

[Adopo]

https://www.yachtworld.com/yacht/1999-cape-horn-long-range-trawler-8006332/

I remember when these first came out and the articles in Passagemaker. Designed to survive a roll over?

What an interesting drive system.

The main propulsion drive system is a single full azimuth variable speed hydraulic drive manufactured by Thrustmaster Inc. of Houston, Texas. This drive unit is predominantly used in commercial tugs and power barges where ultimate maneuvering is required. Thrustmaster system serviced completely 2021.

The main engine is a commercial marine series Volvo TAMD 122A diesel rated at 380 HP continuous at 1800 RPM. The main engine drive output is connected to the Thrustmaster hydraulic pump which provides the ultimate in efficiency and quiet operations in a marine installation, and with outstanding maneuvering ability and control of speed. The engine speed and Thrustmaster speeds are controlled independently for very fine tuning to obtain the most efficient power control. In addition to providing propulsion, the main engine has a clutch controlled hydraulic power takeoff drive and hydraulic pump for powering the bow thruster and anchor windlass.


https://www.passagemaker.com/cruiser-reviews/the-capehorn-58-a-field-of-ideas

 

[Max Simmons]

Interesting

https://www.yachtworld.com/yacht/1968-chris--craft-57-constellation-7838901/

 

[OldDan1943]

Adopo, I do believe it was called a Z Drive. I saw one in this marina and the owner was happy to show me the drive.
The Capehorn was a beautiful boat and never could figure out why the boat never really caught on.

 

[Adopo]

Interesting

https://www.yachtworld.com/yacht/1968-chris--craft-57-constellation-7838901/

OMG that deserves a Holly Toledo! Good to see someone go nuts regardless of cost and save one of these. Would be interesting to see the engine room, sort of surprised it does not have new power with everything else done.

 

[Adopo]

Adopo, it was called a Z Drive. I saw one in this marina and the owner was happy to show me the drive.

Maneuverability must be amazing.

 

[JWellington]

Adopo, I do believe it was called a Z Drive. I saw one in this marina and the owner was happy to show me the drive.
The Capehorn was a beautiful boat and never could figure out why the boat never really caught on.

Too expensive for many since they were so overbuilt. About the best out there.

 

[OldDan1943]

Too expensive for many since they were so overbuilt. About the best out there.

You are correct, it is a very beautiful boat and over built.
A boat of this quality deserves to be 'at sea'.
There are one or two used ones on the market. Just no interest on my part. I am about at the end of my boating plus I own my AT 34. SMILE

 

[KnotYet]

Maybe we'll hear from Judy at JWY soon. She knows 'all' about the great Cape Horns!

 

[RT Firefly]

Greetings,
Interesting anecdote about Cape Horns. We went on board one at FLIBS (Fort Lauderdale International Boats Show) the first year CH's were on the market. Dear Mr. Sever wouldn't even talk to us. Well, Mr. Sever, IF we ever won the lottery you can be DAMN sure CH wouldn't be on our wish list.

 

[Max Simmons]

I've always liked this model Offshore, kudos to the photographer. I wonder if it is as clean as it looks.

https://www.yachtworld.com/yacht/1997-offshore-yachts-sedan-8095321/[/QUOTE

I really like these as well. The few I've been on seem to be very well built and laid out nice. I've tracked them over the years as it may be an option in the future. Always surprised at the cost difference from the yachtfisher and sedan model, usually 100K+

 

[Art]

You are correct, it is a very beautiful boat and over built.
A boat of this quality deserves to be 'at sea'.
There are one or two used ones on the market. Just no interest on my part. I am about at the end of my boating plus I own my AT 34. SMILE

Dan - your AT 34 owns you! That is obvious... pretty cool too!!

 

[Art]

Greetings,
Interesting anecdote about Cape Horns. We went on board one at FLIBS (Fort Lauderdale International Boats Show) the first year CH's were on the market. Dear Mr. Sever wouldn't even talk to us. Well, Mr. Sever, IF we ever won the lottery you can be DAMN sure CH wouldn't be on our wish list.

Bit miffed eah...

 

[OldDan1943]

Dan - your AT 34 owns you! That is obvious... pretty cool too!!

LOL it's like having an expensive girlfriend