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04-17-2017, 08:03 AM
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Senior Member
City: Chesapeake, VA
Vessel Name: Grace
Vessel Model: 1982 Grand Banks Motoryacht
Join Date: Apr 2013
Posts: 134
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Insurance Cost and Options
Looks like we are going to finally get our boat. 1982 Grand Banks. I am a USAA member and they don't do boat insurance so they farm it out to Markel Insurance. We were quoted $1600 per year for basic Protection and Indemnity and coverage for the appraised value of the boat (about 100k). We live in Virginia.
I wanted to reach out to other boat insurance companies and get some comparisons.
Recommendations?
Thanks
Kurt
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04-17-2017, 08:24 AM
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Senior Member
City: Tokyo, Japan / Tampa, Florida / Washington, Virginia
Vessel Name: Mondai Nai
Vessel Model: Nordhaven 55 - 45
Join Date: Mar 2013
Posts: 328
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We have used Markel for the pass 15 years. Top notch company with great customer support, especially when I had a lightning claim on my 76 Hatteras.
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04-17-2017, 08:54 AM
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Guru
City: Narragansett Bay
Vessel Model: Grand Banks 36
Join Date: Sep 2016
Posts: 1,817
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Give Ace a try. I have been very satisfied in the past. It will be a yacht policy. Marine is there niche.
ACE USA: Contact Us
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04-17-2017, 10:00 AM
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Valued Technical Contributor
City: Litchfield, Ct
Join Date: Aug 2012
Posts: 6,695
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Ace and Markel are good marine insurance companies, but i would buy insurance from a broker who can advise you of policy differences, shop carriers and pick the right coverage.
Since you are in the Chesapeake, there are two good ones: Jack Martin and Associates in Annapolis and IMIS Corp in Grasonville across the bridge.
David
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04-17-2017, 10:07 AM
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Guru
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 1,121
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I second the Ace suggestion. They were very reasonable and easy to deal with. Also, before we selected Ace we got several quotes 9in 2006). I was shocked how much they varied for the same coverage. Our Ace premium ($10K deductible) was about $2.25K for $500K coverage. Similar policy from BoatUS came in at about $14K!!!
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04-17-2017, 10:52 AM
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Senior Member
City: Minden, NV & California Delta
Join Date: Mar 2012
Posts: 200
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Insurance
I would second the broker suggestion. A broker can best assess your coverage needs and can deal with coverage and claims issues that may arise. "Knock on Wood" we have never had to file a claim yet but our broker has saved our bacon on several coverage issues over the years. We cruised internationally for over 10 years, much of the time in hurricane zones. She made sure we had adequate coverage for reasonable prices including forgoing a commission one year when we needed a quick change of carriers because of our summer berthing plans.
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04-17-2017, 11:40 PM
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Guru


City: Seattle, WA
Vessel Name: Pau Hana
Vessel Model: 1989 PT52 Overseas Yachtfisher
Join Date: Aug 2012
Posts: 2,674
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Check "D"- all of the above.
The above posts all have great info, and I can personally vouch for IMIS, Jack Martin, and Maritime Insurance International, as I work with all on a regular basis.
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Peter- Marine Insurance Guru at Novamar Insurance Group (206-350-5051) & tuna fishing addict!
1989 52' PT Overseas yachtfisher
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04-25-2017, 08:01 PM
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Member
City: Annapolis
Vessel Name: Berto
Vessel Model: Grand Banks 42
Join Date: Feb 2017
Posts: 7
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Boat/US I just got insurance on my 1984 Grand Banks 42, $100K Agreed Value, 2% Deductible $817
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04-26-2017, 06:35 PM
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Senior Member
City: Chesapeake, VA
Vessel Name: Grace
Vessel Model: 1982 Grand Banks Motoryacht
Join Date: Apr 2013
Posts: 134
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Thanks for all the input.
I received quotes from 4 companies and by far the insurance thru BoatUS was the best deal. All were comparable in coverage. BoatUS policy has $3k per incident towing coverage thru TowBoat US which I thought was very nice.
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04-26-2017, 06:42 PM
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Moderator Emeritus
City: Au Gres, MI
Vessel Name: Black Dog
Vessel Model: Formula 41PC
Join Date: Jul 2015
Posts: 20,582
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We have had BOAT/US for 35+ years. Great to work with. They may not be the absolute lowest price, but I like dealing with people that understand boats not just cars.
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04-26-2017, 07:25 PM
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Veteran Member
City: Pawleys Island
Vessel Name: Bay Tripper
Vessel Model: '06 MS 34 Pilot
Join Date: Mar 2014
Posts: 76
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Started a new policy with Boat US at midnight! Pricing was competitive + the n/c Gold Towing package swayed me.
Jeff
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04-27-2017, 08:05 AM
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Guru
City: Cary, NC
Vessel Name: Skinny Dippin'
Vessel Model: Navigator 4200 Classic
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 5,841
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Insurance Cost and Options
You guys can compare rates all day long, but insurance premiums these days have more to do with your credit score than just about any other factor. So saying you got a better rate here or their means nothing to someone else.
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2000 Navigator 4200 Classic
(NOT a trawler)
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02-02-2018, 01:22 PM
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Senior Member
City: PNW
Vessel Model: American Tug 435
Join Date: Jul 2014
Posts: 258
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Restarting this thread as we found out the company we were with Falvey Yacht Ins is getting out of the business.
we'll definitely check with Boat US... but also has anyone tried Pantaenius?
Also: need it to work in not only US, but Canada and Bahamas....
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02-02-2018, 01:28 PM
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Guru
City: North Carolina for now
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 6,348
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Try Charter Lakes and especially Gowrie Group, the latter whom has servred us well. They broker for ACE, who gave us excellent service when we needed it, as well as others.
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"There's the Right Way, the Wrong Way, and what some guy says he's gotten away with"
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02-02-2018, 06:09 PM
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Senior Member
City: Washington
Join Date: Nov 2017
Posts: 468
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A lot of people have talked about the coverage on their boat, but I don't think anyone mentioned liability coverage. Most marinas require liability coverage and many require that they be added to the policy. The minimum coverage required for where we will be moving the boat to is $300K.
In this day of lawyers advertising on TV how much they get for their injury clients, a million dollars of liability insurance is not too much. Often you can do this with an umbrella policy.
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02-02-2018, 06:18 PM
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Guru
City: Sydney
Vessel Name: Sojourn
Vessel Model: Integrity 386
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 13,116
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Quote:
Originally Posted by aboatman
.... Most marinas require liability coverage and many require that they be added to the policy. The minimum coverage required for where we will be moving the boat to is $300K.
In this day of lawyers advertising on TV how much they get for their injury clients, a million dollars of liability insurance is not too much....
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Even that is not enough imo. Standard liability cover here is $5-10M AUD, that 4-8M in USD.
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BruceK
2005 Integrity 386 "Sojourn"
Sydney Australia
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02-02-2018, 09:13 PM
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Guru
City: Fort Lauderdale. Florida, USA
Join Date: Jan 2014
Posts: 21,449
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hamrow
Restarting this thread as we found out the company we were with Falvey Yacht Ins is getting out of the business.
we'll definitely check with Boat US... but also has anyone tried Pantaenius?
Also: need it to work in not only US, but Canada and Bahamas....
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Yes. We almost went with Pantaenius but we have so much other insurance with Lloyd's that we ended up with a better deal going with them.
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02-03-2018, 07:58 AM
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Senior Member
City: Florida
Vessel Model: 420AC Sea Ray
Join Date: Oct 2016
Posts: 354
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My insurance has skyrocketed over the past 4 years.
$130K agreed value when I bought the boat in 2014. I have never had a claim and my first year owning the boat it was $2300.
This year I'm up to $2800 and that is with reducing the agreed value by $10K
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02-03-2018, 08:52 AM
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Guru
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 1,121
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You might check with Jack Martin Assoc. in Annapolis. They provided me insurance through ACE at a very reasonable cost. For $500K coverage with a $10K deductible we were paying about $2.5K in 2014 when we sold the boat. Always found them to be easy to deal with and very knowledgeable as they specialize in marine. In comparison my first quote from BoatUS was about 6 times more expensive (14K) when checked in 2006.
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