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Old 06-07-2018, 09:33 PM   #61
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It a good idea to keep extra water under the hull on a falling tide, and leave the skinny water exploring until there's a rising tide. That way you can just sit and wait until you are lifted off the bottom with little risk of (additional) damage.
But be prepared to put out a kedge if waves or wind push one toward shallower water.
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Old 06-07-2018, 11:29 PM   #62
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Why not just drop the stern anchor on your approach ?
Traffic and other reasons.
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Old 06-08-2018, 08:11 AM   #63
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I move 33 Hunter from GA to FL with very little experience in sailboats. I drop the anchor in 5ft of water thinking that was enough. Did not paid attention to tides. @ hr latter I roll of the bunk - sitting in the mud. 5 hr of horror and when tide come back- float away. I am used to 1 foot of tide, but ICW have 5-6 feet. I did not know that before - lesson learn.
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Old 06-08-2018, 09:37 AM   #64
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in GA it can be 8 to 9 feet on a regular basis, sometimes more if environmentals kick in.

and yes I know thats still no big deal compared to some places, spent over 2 years living in Alaska.....pays to research new places all the way down to dangerous critters.
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Old 06-08-2018, 02:53 PM   #65
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I lived in Myrtle Beach for a few years when I was in The Air Force. We used to go all through those mud flats as fast as we could in my little 15’ tri-hull. If you slowed down at all you were sitting stuck in the mud. Cleaned my prop so many times in that mud!
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You are not a captain until you go aground.

Using a cell phone to navigate is fine, if your not exposing passengers or other vessels to potentially dangerous situations.
Ask a USCG person for a sobering answer.

Had 1500 to1800 Passengers a day/ night.
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Get navigate maps with paper back ups. Please study them on each trip.
But best to you on your cruising.
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I lived in Myrtle Beach for a few years when I was in The Air Force. We used to go all through those mud flats as fast as we could in my little 15’ tri-hull. If you slowed down at all you were sitting stuck in the mud. Cleaned my prop so many times in that mud!
Funny you said that. The next evening at anchor we were swimming and I was feeling the props and rudders, checking for damage. Fortunately they felt fine, but man were they clean!
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Old 06-08-2018, 06:26 PM   #68
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You are not a captain until you go aground.

Using a cell phone to navigate is fine, if your not exposing passengers or other vessels to potentially dangerous situations.
Ask a USCG person for a sobering answer.

Had 1500 to1800 Passengers a day/ night.
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Get navigate maps with paper back ups. Please study them on each trip.
But best to you on your cruising.
It was all my fault. My cell phone and aquamaps correctly showed the shallow area, I just stopped looking at it and focused on getting behind a sailboat. Lesson learned for sure!
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It was all my fault. My cell phone and aquamaps correctly showed the shallow area, I just stopped looking at it and focused on getting behind a sailboat. Lesson learned for sure!
You didn't notice a trend with your depth sounder?
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Old 06-08-2018, 06:44 PM   #70
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You didn't notice a trend with your depth sounder?
I think there was a shelf. I was in plenty of water. When the alarm went off (goes off at 5’) I was already in less than 3’ which quickly went down to less than 2’.
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What type of sail boat draws 2-3 ft of water?

It would appear you got out of the channel.
I got suckered in when I tried to venture into a private channel. I forgot, in a private channel the channel markers are reversed. At the time, I maintained just enough speed to maintain steerage... I felt the side of the private channel, confused, I backed out and went another way.
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Steve91T, it is in the nature of TF to second guess and armchair captain each in every situation. We are also very fond of telling others what they “should” do.

As most of us have mentioned, we all have or will touch bottom at some point. I really appreciate posts like your that allow us the opportunity to learn from others experiences (mistakes or not).

Back when I was a general aviation pilot I received the NASA-ASRS bulletins. I was (still is?) a program that allowed aviation personnel, both commercial and private, to voluntarily report incidents that could have impacted safety. The concept to was to learn from others experience. Over the 40 years the program has resulted in real changes in the aviation industry.

I see posts like yours in the same vein. They open my eyes to potential problems in piloting, navigation, or mechanics that I may not be aware of otherwise.
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What type of sail boat draws 2-3 ft of water?

My sailboat was a 24-foot Bluewater Blackwatch cutter with a 2-foot fixed keel. Managed to go aground twice!
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My sailboat was a 24-foot Bluewater Blackwatch cutter with a 2-foot fixed keel. Managed to go aground twice!
I guess it is safe to say, we all go aground at least once in life.
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Have you tried using a snubber on the anchor rode, with an offset to one side or the other? That can help tame the yawing a bit.

Our old boat would do that a lot, made worse by waves slapping hard under the chines. During one night of really noisy conditions I took a pair of kids floating noodles, ran a line through them (knotted to keep them in place) and tied them like a chin strap under the bow chines. Worked pretty well for a 3-in-the-morning hack to try to get some sleep! Learned about offsetting the anchor a bit after that.
I’ll have to try that. Thank you!
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What type of sail boat draws 2-3 ft of water?

It would appear you got out of the channel.
I got suckered in when I tried to venture into a private channel. I forgot, in a private channel the channel markers are reversed. At the time, I maintained just enough speed to maintain steerage... I felt the side of the private channel, confused, I backed out and went another way.
That’s not what I said. Look at post #23. The sailboat was in deep water, I just cut the corner when entering. That’s where it’s super shallow a long ways out.
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Not true... 10 years and I haven't touched one.
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Not true... 10 years and I haven't touched one.
10 years means your %age-positive for occurrence potential is getting higher every day aboard!
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That’s not what I said. Look at post #23. The sailboat was in deep water, I just cut the corner when entering. That’s where it’s super shallow a long ways out.
Ah, cutting the corner. Guess you wont do that again.
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I have always tried to extricate myself from grounding situations, yes plural. Sailed for yrs with a 5ft draft and in the waterway, stuff happens. The more times you do the drill the easier it can be, there are times when dropping the dinghy and setting a kedge prevents further damage to the vessel. There are places where help may be a long ways away, waiting in the Bahamas for a rescue could become quite stressful. Just like MOB drills it's just another skill set that could prove to be really useful someday.
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