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Old 09-06-2017, 09:26 PM   #181
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Not to hi-jack this string but as a Native Houstonian who took 18" of water in my house last week (a house with 63 years of no water - and yes I have flood insurance), I'm curious what you're hearing in the press about our response to Harvey. So far, it's a huge mess but we are just "gettin' er done". People here are stoic. Nobody's complaining or fighting. It's like ants rebuilding a kicked-over mound. Everyone's helping each other and 80% didn't have flood insurance. 300-400,000 homes flooded or damaged in the region. FEMA was broke before Harvey...now they're broker.

My gas still works so I'm grilling steaks for my demo crew on Friday. We still have many communities under water and inaccessible. JJWatt raised $20 million in 6 days.
BTW, my adjuster's here from Jacksonville. He's a little freaked out about Irma plus he's on no sleep, sharing a hotel suite with 3 other guys. He said he knows where he's probably headed next....back home, unfortunately.

Just know we are pulling for Florida over here.

Again, Irma's the subject, but If things go south, I hope we're a good model of human behavior. It's been pretty impressive.
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Old 09-06-2017, 09:48 PM   #182
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A good site for traffic, cameras, routes, accidents, etc.

https://fl511.com/
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Old 09-06-2017, 09:49 PM   #183
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That's a good report to hear from a local. I dropped my son off at UH downtown this weekend and it looked to me like people were getting back to business.

Houston is a resilient city.
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Old 09-06-2017, 10:11 PM   #184
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Really spreading insurance adjusters thin. Some insurers are offering independent adjusters up to $1400 a day to guarantee availability.
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Old 09-06-2017, 10:24 PM   #185
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Quote of the night from a governor of a state not to be named.

"This is a state of emergency, meaning we're in a state of emergency." He was speaking very slow so everyone could understand what he was saying apparently. Perhaps not bad to say it slowly and repeat most parts.
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Old 09-06-2017, 10:56 PM   #186
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He was actually speaking slowly? He's usually fumbling all over the words tumbling out of his mouth like a waterfall.
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Old 09-06-2017, 11:04 PM   #187
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He was actually speaking slowly? He's usually fumbling all over the words tumbling out of his mouth like a waterfall.
I didn't say which governor.

If you want to get out on the water, current forecasts are 1' seas here tomorrow. During Friday they grow to 6', Saturday to 16' and Sunday peak at 46'. Back to 3' by Monday late afternoon.
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Old 09-06-2017, 11:27 PM   #188
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This is awful. Well wishes to all the southern TrawlerForum members.
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Old 09-07-2017, 01:51 AM   #189
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My best friend is in serious condition in a Savannah hospital. He had a life saving operation last Friday and I was with him until I had to leave to come down to St Pete to take care of my boat which is also my home. My prayers to all in the path of Irma and especially to patients in hospitals in the direct path. I lived through Katrina and remember well the death toll in the hospitals that did not evacuate and decided to 'shelter in place'.
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Old 09-07-2017, 05:33 AM   #190
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Irma

I was planning on a survey and see trial tomorrow in the N Palm area, sounds like the sea state would have been OK. We backed it up a week, no sense doing it twice. The boat is at Cypress Island Marina in Palm Beach Gardens, looks like a good place to ride this out. Just hope the current owner does't have it insured for significantly more than the contract price.
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Old 09-07-2017, 06:23 AM   #191
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They still are unsure of where it will make the northward turn. And where it makes that turn has a HUGE effect on impacts. Late turn, Keys and Sfla. Early turn, Bahamas and then Carolinas.

Uggh. Got family in the Keys and Carolinas. This family might get a "two for one" deal.

Folks in Keys have already evac'd.
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They still are unsure of where it will make the northward turn. And where it makes that turn has a HUGE effect on impacts. Late turn, Keys and Sfla. Early turn, Bahamas and then Carolinas.

Uggh. Got family in the Keys and Carolinas. This family might get a "two for one" deal.

Folks in Keys have already evac'd.
Interesting to hear this. I have a favorite webcam located in Key West at Sloppy Joes. Here is a link... Live Duval Street

I've been checking in all morning and every time I look I see people and or vehicles. I know that I'd be out of there!
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Old 09-07-2017, 07:20 AM   #193
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Irma la Bitch!

https://www.passagemaker.com/lifestyle/irma-tortola

That's a lot of boats to try to protect. But only a few have to break loose to take out a bunch because of the interdependence.
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Old 09-07-2017, 07:40 AM   #194
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That "before" picture, by the way, is a total PhotoShop creation. There is no way all the boats are identical side by side like that. It's probably a marketing brochure picture.

I don't doubt the damage done by the storm, and feel for all those impacted, but there is some theatrics in the presentation that reduces the credibility of PassageMaker, in my mind.
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Old 09-07-2017, 07:43 AM   #195
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I know they issue new advisories every 3 hours, but does anyone know how often they re-run the computer models and create new spaghetti charts ?
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My understanding is that most of the "traditional" models are re-run at 2-3 hour intervals but that the European model is not. Think I read that it re-runs at something like 12 hr intervals. So depending on when all the models are posted, the European "line" might not have been updated, and may look like the outlier. But it's also getting a lot of press for being the most accurate predictor, using a more comprehensive combination of inputs.
Richard on Dauntless could describe this in better detail.
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I think run times vary with the models. I check Passageweather every few hours and it seems to update like every six hours. They seem to integrate the various models and historically have been pretty dang good. I don't bother with the spaghetti models as there are simply too many of them.
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I know they issue new advisories every 3 hours, but does anyone know how often they re-run the computer models and create new spaghetti charts ?
Benthic,

Seems to be either 2 or 4 times a day depending on what model.

From the site that BandB supplied us:

https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/anal...xpos=0&ypos=40

You can select the time the model was created on the right in the little drop down box below the grey Mesoscale and Climate.
Then on the upper right of the map you see the init: (when created) and when valid by date or forecast hour.

I believe that's the way it works.
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looks to be the Moorings charter fleet in the first pic... bet you could pick up a cheap catamaran now...
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Old 09-07-2017, 08:18 AM   #200
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Hurricane Irma

Good article explaining the different models:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbc...llenge-n798961

The EU model is updated every 12 hours. Other models updated every 6 hours.

So the GFS model has Irma staying offshore, where the EU model has it hitting the Keys and heading up the coast to Miami.
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