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Old 10-25-2020, 11:54 AM   #1
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Hurricane fatigue

Usually by this time of year we all can breathe a sigh of relief about the season being over, but not this year, especially for the snake-bit central and western Gulf coast. Being on the eastern edge of the uncertainty cone at the moment makes us thankful not to be centered in the cone, but it is still early... I friend who just sailed his boat to Mobile (currently dead center of the cone) from here this week and is now departing for storm evasion up the Tenn-Tom Waterway, saying, "Are you KIDDING me?!" As a minimum we will be getting a yard full of bayou water and maybe have to remove the boat from the lift under the boathouse to prevent bad things happening to both boat and roof. Forecast tracks show a pretty fast mover this time, which is good from a flooding perspective. So come on Zeta, do your worst and then get gone with ya. Photo shows how close Sally came to ruining the day and why we are moving the boat when future storms threaten surge.

I suppose that if we didn't have these things, we would be overrun with population explosion here on both land and water in paradise.
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Old 10-25-2020, 12:20 PM   #2
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I can't believe the number of storms that have taken that track this year. Unreal.

I guess you could look on the bright side - statistically, the next few years should be pretty lean!!

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Old 10-25-2020, 01:25 PM   #3
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Haul boat out, put back in, haul boat out, put back in...getting a little old!
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Hurricane season is not over till the end of November sooooo, "It aint over til the fat lady sings." or the turkey is history.
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Old 10-25-2020, 02:52 PM   #5
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It just doesn't seem to end for the Northern Gulf this year. Hope for the best and stay safe. Will be heading South in a week or so, and really need this hurricane season to over with.

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Old 10-25-2020, 03:32 PM   #6
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You could move here, we donít have a hurricane season...
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Old 10-25-2020, 04:22 PM   #7
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Nice place to visit, but to short a boating season.

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Old 10-25-2020, 06:21 PM   #9
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I did that one time many years ago. Rolled 4.5 times without a seatbelt on... It was quite painful.
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Old 10-25-2020, 09:55 PM   #10
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I can't believe the number of storms that have taken that track this year. Unreal.

I guess you could look on the bright side - statistically, the next few years should be pretty lean!!

Unfortunately, there is no such statistical probability related to storms. Just as the Hurricane Center - I once saw the director comment on this subject.
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Old 10-25-2020, 10:00 PM   #11
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You could move here, we donít have a hurricane season...
Here being Michigan? I would be whatever the opposite of a snowbird is. Been through the MI area on a boat and loved it, in July. First I'd have to have hurricane-proof home here which I could leave without worries, but living on the water, well, as Michael showed me, I need to be HERE to handle the fallout.
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Old 10-26-2020, 12:22 PM   #12
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Hey Rich:

We were thinking of you when we saw Zeta's projected track. Do you have a marina nearby that can lift and store your boat during this one?

Hurricanes are definitely the bane of those of us living near the Gulf, and y'all up there in the Panhandle have had a mighty tormented few years.

I've realized over the years that trying to predict the storm surge of any given hurricane boils down to basically a wild-ass guess.

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Old 10-26-2020, 12:43 PM   #13
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Hi there. You guys down there in the Tampa area have done well this season, but you never know, next one could be YOUR year.

There is a yard within fifteen minutes of my which would haul the boat, IF I paid the 1500 buck or so a year for the pleasure of just being on their haul list and then paid the usual haul out fee when the boat is lifted. However, I do not consider hauling out during storms a good idea. This yard had a ton of boats toppled over during Hurricane Michael, and even if your boat was not affected, the insurance investigations locked down the yard down for weeks afterward. Michael was exceptionally strong, but I have seen too many photos of toppled boats in marinas all over the eastern half of the country to trust my boat to a storm haul. No, I have many better options and plenty of anchors and rode to secure my boat.

This morning I noted that the tide was about 6 inches higher than normal at high tide - makes me wonder if we are already seeing influences. I am actually pretty good at predicting surge here. The photo above shows the surge at just about where I thought it might be, but as I have said before, that was too close for comfort, and I should have moved the boat out from under the shed. I am guessing that I will see the water lapping at the bottom or maybe a foot over my pier boards at worst with Zeta. Our weax guy is not too worried about much more than 40 MPH winds for a short time on Wed-Thur.
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Old 10-26-2020, 12:49 PM   #14
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Tied the most hurricanes in a year already. Definitely most to hit that area. Feel for you. We've seen none this year.
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Hi there. You guys down there in the Tampa area have done well this season, but you never know, next one could be YOUR year.

However, I do not consider hauling out during storms a good idea. This yard had a ton of boats toppled over during Hurricane Michael, and even if your boat was not affected, the insurance investigations locked down the yard down for weeks afterward. Michael was exceptionally strong, but I have seen too many photos of toppled boats in marinas all over the eastern half of the country to trust my boat to a storm haul. No, I have many better options and plenty of anchors and rode to secure my boat.
Yes, at some point we will get a hurricane surge into Tampa Bay that will cause billions in damage.

You remind me of why we purchased a "trailerable trawler." When a hurricane approaches, we motor Mariso onto her trailer at our neighborhood boat ramp, and then tow her to a storage spot inland.

This is much less expensive, much less hassle, and much less worry than having her hauled at a boat yard or trying to find a "hurricane hole" to anchor up for the storm.

For us, there are additional reasons to own a trailerable liveaboard, but the ability to easily pull her from the water when a hurricane approaches was the primary reason this vessel appealed to us.

And we agree wholeheartedly, the Gulf coast is a special place. However, it's just too damn hot in the summertime down here in St. Petersburg.

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I remember having to cut a holiday trip to the beach short and flee Hurricane Kate a few days before December. In the mid 1980's...
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Yes, at some point we will get a hurricane surge into Tampa Bay that will cause billions in damage.

You remind me of why we purchased a "trailerable trawler." When a hurricane approaches, we motor Mariso onto her trailer at our neighborhood boat ramp, and then tow her to a storage spot inland.

This is much less expensive, much less hassle, and much less worry than having her hauled at a boat yard or trying to find a "hurricane hole" to anchor up for the storm.

For us, there are additional reasons to own a trailerable liveaboard, but the ability to easily pull her from the water when a hurricane approaches was the primary reason this vessel appealed to us.

And we agree wholeheartedly, the Gulf coast is a special place. However, it's just too damn hot in the summertime down here in St. Petersburg.

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At 12,00 pounds and 10 feet in beam, my boat is "trailerable," but the width I believe being over 8 feet requires things like escort and permits etc. When I studied on this boat purchase I came across a sistership in Jacksonville which was advertised with a trailer for storm evasion, but I think that boat was moved a very short distance. For trailering I would be having to buy a very expensive prime mover plus trailer to haul this beast up a ramp. Then there is the twelve and a half feet of keel-to-radar plus probably another couple of feet of ground clearance. It all adds up to a lot of heartburn when a good location and proper ground tackle will answer quite well.
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Old 10-26-2020, 04:59 PM   #18
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I remember having to cut a holiday trip to the beach short and flee Hurricane Kate a few days before December. In the mid 1980's...
In 30 years here (OMG, has it been THAT long), we have seen one 'cane here after October 5 (Opal 1995), and that was the record busting Cat 5 Michael in '18, and we are still pretty well devastated here.
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Youíre not kidding. We are moving our boat to our hurricane hole for the third time this year, this morning.
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Fortunately this storm is forecast to stay on the weak side, 75kts. If the forecast holds!!

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