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Old 10-10-2017, 06:10 PM   #101
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It also can determine how you react as the stand on vessel and dont have a clear view of tbe other vessels bow to see an anchor rode.

It is just plain courtesy on the water if nothing else.

Sure, in remotevparts, not as big of a deal, but eastern US....it helps more than many think.
And there are plenty of examples of props wrapped up in rode.
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Old 10-10-2017, 08:48 PM   #102
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LOL 2 black balls? Aint no way of that happening....
Not so difficult. Just send an appropriate crew member up the mast.
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If we are offshore and on a long segment a lot of time gets spent like this -

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Old 10-11-2017, 11:37 AM   #104
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If we are offshore and on a long segment a lot of time gets spent like this -
About to fall over and get chewed up by the prop?

Bowriding is Illegal in Australia.
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Bow riding should be illegal in the US but, 'those in the know' rely on boaters having common sense.
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I guess it’s good that I’m not in Australia or the US when doing this then... I also pump gas while using my cell phone and sometimes don’t even shut of my engine.

Florida just changed the laws regarding this too so I guess I’m good while in Florida waters as well.

I’m sure none of you have ever sat on the bow of a dinghy while going through a harbor either...


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Old 10-11-2017, 12:22 PM   #107
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Cool, and I thought I was nuts. I've got a real nice electric piano that I'd consider taking, but can't figure out where to put it. It's only 75# and pretty skinny, but boat space is a premium......

Might consider a table top unit, but not sure what to get that really sounds like a piano.
A harmonica is a lot smaller!
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Old 10-11-2017, 12:35 PM   #108
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There's a dead sailboat anchored downriver from my marina. It has no black anchor ball and the Walmart garden light it was using for an anchor light has failed.

So according to the COLREGS, you must raise your anchor ball as soon as you anchor unless it's already dark and leave it up until you get underway the next morning unless you leave before sunrise. And don't leave it raised while you are underway.

As for the "maritime court" thing, I would like to think hat if you manage to run your boat into an anchored boat in broad daylight it would be pretty much your fault. I mean if you run into a floating log it would be your fault. Run into a dock and it's your fault.

If I can't tell if a boat is anchored, I pass behind it.
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Old 10-11-2017, 01:02 PM   #109
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There's a dead sailboat anchored downriver from my marina. It has no black anchor ball and the Walmart garden light it was using for an anchor light has failed.
Is it anchored in a designated anchorage and under 20m in length? Is it under 7m in length? If so then it's actually still ok.
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Is it anchored in a designated anchorage and under 20m in length? Is it under 7m in length? If so then it's actually still ok.
It is not in a designated anchorage, it's in the river. Out of the marked channel but directly in the path to the public boat ramp. I don't know the length but I would guess about 35-40'
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It is not in a designated anchorage, it's in the river. Out of the marked channel but directly in the path to the public boat ramp. I don't know the length but I would guess about 35-40'
That's no little boat. Sounds like it needs to be reported to the authorities. Or the anchor line needs to part and it be guided to a nice empty spot on the beach.....
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That's no little boat. Sounds like it needs to be reported to the authorities. Or the anchor line needs to part and it be guided to a nice empty spot on the beach.....
There's already one in the marsh that's visible at low tide but not at high tide.

This is a dumping ground for boats and the authorities don't seem to give it a high priority.
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Old 10-11-2017, 02:59 PM   #113
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Iím sure none of you have ever sat on the bow of a dinghy while going through a harbor either...


Never.
Why would I do that when I have perfectly good seats inside the dinghy?
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Old 10-11-2017, 03:18 PM   #114
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Never.
Why would I do that when I have perfectly good seats inside the dinghy?
I'm with Simi on this one. I would never allow anyone to ride underway as those two are, nor would I allow anyone to ride on the bow or a turbe of a dinghy or rib. And all this without PFD's.
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Binoculars can turn up some interesting sights, even out in the open ocean. There happens to be marine life out there too. Sometimes it's of the two-legged verity doing private photo shoots. Just beware of the nudist cruises.
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Bow riding like pictured is extremely dangerous. And in many places here in the US, the water police and CG will pull you over and give you a talking to at the very least.
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Old 10-11-2017, 05:56 PM   #117
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Coming out of the Marina, down the ICW, moving at idle speed I am ok with passengers on the swim pads.


Before we get near the inlet - everyone moves back off the bow. If need be happy to stop the boat and hold to move bow passengers safe comfortable passage back into more controlled areas.


Common sense should prevail.
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Yea,

Agreed that underway, folks should not be on the box, especially with feet dangling. I don't care about FL changing the law, I still do things my way.

No one riding on the bow... BUT at idle out of the waterway, have at it. But anyone that can't swim and kids must have a pfd ON.

Overall, I don't like laws and being told what to do, but we half to be responsible for our passengers.
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Coming out of the Marina, down the ICW, moving at idle speed I am ok with passengers on the swim pads.
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Common sense should prevail.
Just make sure the kids on the swim pads are not being exposed to engine exhaust. A coworker was sitting on the rear of a ski boat with her child while the boat was idling. The child passed out and fell into the water. Thankfully, the kid was wearing a PFD and the mother was able to quickly grab the child and pull her back on board the boat. No PFD and it might have been a different story.

The child passed out because of exhaust fumes. The mother was not affected by the exhaust since she was far enough away and did not realize that the child was breathing fumes...

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Coming out of the Marina, down the ICW, moving at idle speed I am ok with passengers on the swim pads.


Before we get near the inlet - everyone moves back off the bow. If need be happy to stop the boat and hold to move bow passengers safe comfortable passage back into more controlled areas.


Common sense should prevail.
Huge difference between that and dangling over the bow.
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