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Old 07-17-2017, 08:36 PM   #141
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Who's this "contract" with? If someone is benefiting contractually from a shipping container being late and the actual consignee gets no rebate if its late (and that's the norm from my experience) then there is even less ground to stand on there.
Contract is with end user . These runs are based on a certain percentage of Boxes making ontime landfall in PR. The harsh reality is that XYZ gets 87% ontime, why would I pay another provider top dollar when they only get 79% on time average?
Look at the track record Crowley has for this run. Years and years of containers on RORO barges with service from Jax and Philadelphia. They routinely leave in frightening wx. Great record of safety, not perfect but impressive. A fellow tug Captain left Jax with containers and took the inshore (Miami) route at the same time of the El Faro incident. I talked to him later and he said the worst sea he experienced on that trip was 8'.
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Old 07-17-2017, 10:02 PM   #142
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It's not a feeling of superiority, but hearing the same "if I were the captain" line gets even older because you don't know. You think you do, but you don't. And yes, we are superhuman, if it were easy, everyone would do it.
Are you or have you been the master of any of these vessels you crew on?

If you are superhuman, I guess the guys that come out and pluck your sorry butt out of the water occasionally are just regular joes with no lives.

And worse, the poor bastard that sends the new young guys out to save your sorry asses in severe conditions has no ba** s at all I guess.

While many here on TF may not be salty dogs...but they are far from stupid or cowards. While some are too quick with answers on maritime incidents for my taste, doesnt mean I have automatic distaste for them in general. Sure call them monday morning quatertebacks, but thinking being a merchant mariner is super human
....nope cant even say it....
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Old 07-17-2017, 10:53 PM   #143
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Are you or have you been the master of any of these vessels you crew on?

If you are superhuman, I guess the guys that come out and pluck your sorry butt out of the water occasionally are just regular joes with no lives.

And worse, the poor bastard that sends the new young guys out to save your sorry asses in severe conditions has no ba** s at all I guess.

While many here on TF may not be salty dogs...but they are far from stupid or cowards. While some are too quick with answers on maritime incidents for my taste, doesnt mean I have automatic distaste for them in general. Sure call them monday morning quatertebacks, but thinking being a merchant mariner is super human
....nope cant even say it....
You must have missed where I said I was joking around to keep things light. But let me bow down to you while you're on your soap box! Also never called anyone a coward or gutless, get over yourself.
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Old 07-18-2017, 01:18 AM   #144
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"Superhuman"...really....???? you had my support until that point.
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Old 07-18-2017, 02:27 AM   #145
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"Superhuman"...really....???? you had my support until that point.
Clearly reading comprehension isn't a requirement here! Wow!
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Old 07-18-2017, 09:57 AM   #146
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Sometimes being humble until you learn the accomplishments of some of the posters here may be the best policy. Many of these guy rate very high in my book but you only learn that by listening and not trying to argue.

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No problem. Y'all can keep thinking 2+2=7.
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Old 07-18-2017, 10:30 AM   #148
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No problem. Y'all can keep thinking 2+2=7.


Dang, and all this time I thought it was 5!
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Dang, and all this time I thought it was 5!
Nope it is 22.
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Mr. M. I see what you did there...

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Old 07-18-2017, 12:15 PM   #151
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I can see your no diplomat and keep steeping on your dick.

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...And yes, we are superhuman, ......
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Ah yes, but only for extremely large values of 2

Now, a question for you...

What is half of one plus one?
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Ah yes, but only for extremely large values of 2

Now, a question for you...

What is half of one plus one?
That is what I have when my wife and I both have a beer and she only drinks half.
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At least she's not saying "I don't want a whole beer, I'll just share yours."
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Mr. M. I see what you did there...

That's 42, not 22.
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Ah yes, but only for extremely large values of 2

Now, a question for you...

What is half of one plus one?
One.
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But, is Schrodinger's cat alive or dead, and at the same time
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Yes, one is a correct answer. As is one and one half. It all depends upon where you put the parentheses.....
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