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08-03-2018, 10:03 PM
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City: Duvall, Wa. USA
Vessel Name: Beach Music II
Vessel Model: 2003 Mainship 430 Trawler
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Grey Water
We just spent two nights at Discovery Harbour Marina in Campbell River, BC. Never stopped here before. While checking in, I was reading the list of do's and don't's. One of the items said No Grey Water Discharge Overboard In The Marina. I asked and they said it was true. They also said they don't have a way of pumping out grey water even if you have a holding tank for it. One of the sailboat live-a-boards said it was mostly ignored. We probably won't be staying here again.
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08-03-2018, 10:07 PM
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City: Gibsons, B.C., Canada
Vessel Name: Island Pride
Vessel Model: Palmer 32'
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I just noticed, a few days ago, that no grey water discharge is allowed now in Tod Inlet.
Fooey. I gues we can't visit there anymore.
I built and installed the toilet holding tank many years ago but there is no more room unless I kick some thing else out. Engine 
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08-03-2018, 10:21 PM
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City: Sidney BC Canada
Vessel Name: RochePoint
Vessel Model: 1985 Cheer Men PT38 Sedan
Join Date: Apr 2009
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Pirates Cove Marine Park also.
"Park regulations prohibit the discharge of sewage or grey water while moored in Pirates Cove." quoted from the website.
C electric, could to tell me where you found the information about Tod Inlet?
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08-03-2018, 10:30 PM
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City: San Francisco
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Quote:
Originally Posted by porman
We just spent two nights at Discovery Harbour Marina in Campbell River, BC. Never stopped here before. While checking in, I was reading the list of do's and don't's. One of the items said No Grey Water Discharge Overboard In The Marina.
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Isn't there about a 12 knot current going past there twice a day? Is their seawall that effective?
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08-04-2018, 12:38 AM
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City: Duvall, Wa. USA
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Well dang it. We were headed for Pirates Cove tomorrow.
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08-04-2018, 12:40 AM
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City: Gibsons, B.C., Canada
Vessel Name: Island Pride
Vessel Model: Palmer 32'
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I think in the last or second to last issue of Pacific Yachting. An article about Tod Inlet.
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08-04-2018, 12:58 AM
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City: Duvall, Wa. USA
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No grey water at Wallace Island either.
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08-04-2018, 08:08 AM
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City: Ft Pierce
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Quote:
Originally Posted by porman
We just spent two nights at Discovery Harbour Marina in Campbell River, BC. Never stopped here before. While checking in, I was reading the list of do's and don't's. One of the items said No Grey Water Discharge Overboard In The Marina. I asked and they said it was true. They also said they don't have a way of pumping out grey water even if you have a holding tank for it. One of the sailboat live-a-boards said it was mostly ignored. We probably won't be staying here again.
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On their website, they also say no bilge water to be pumped in the marina basin.
Sounds like a marina run by non boaters.....no mention of oily water seoarators or solutions to a sinking that may be worse.
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08-04-2018, 08:51 AM
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City: Southern Maine
Vessel Model: Prairie 36 Coastal Cruiser
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I'm not familiar with those places. Are they federally navigable waters?
This same issue comes up from time to time about Lake Champlain. It's federally navigable, which means neither NY nor VT can enforce their black and grey water system rules on transient boaters. But I've heard they try.
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08-04-2018, 09:56 AM
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City: Brookline, NH
Vessel Name: Shalloway
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Nantucket harbor has the same prohibition against gray water. I think it's actually a local ordnance. I have no idea how it's enforced.
Ken
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08-04-2018, 11:27 AM
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City: Duvall, Wa. USA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CaptTom
I'm not familiar with those places. Are they federally navigable waters?
This same issue comes up from time to time about Lake Champlain. It's federally navigable, which means neither NY nor VT can enforce their black and grey water system rules on transient boaters. But I've heard they try.
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Discovery Harbour and the marine parks are all in British Columbia, Canada. US rules don't apply.
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08-04-2018, 04:34 PM
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City: Miami Florida
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There once was a lady from Nantucket
Kept grey water in a bucket
The bucket got filled
Then it got spilled
The lady from Nantucket said f*** it
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Retired from Hopkins-Carter Marine Supply
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08-04-2018, 07:51 PM
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City: Birch bay wa
Vessel Name: Rogue
Vessel Model: North Pacific 42
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Hop, my sentiments exactly..
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08-04-2018, 08:32 PM
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City: Sydney
Vessel Name: Sojourn
Vessel Model: Integrity 386
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What about water from engine exhausts?
Comes out mixed with pollutants from combustion,and at times unburned fuel and oil. That`s got to be the next target for the grey water banning crowd. Maybe an onboard filtration plant would solve it.
Keel cooling you say? What about air pollution from the exhaust stack,that`s going to need filtering and particle collection.
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2005 Integrity 386 "Sojourn"
Sydney Australia
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08-04-2018, 09:21 PM
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City: AR
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There are more bacteria and material that creates the envirozealots favorite target--BOD (bio-oxygen demand)--in the bird poop you hose off the deck than there are in gray water. The only real problem in a marina or anchorage would be a garbage disposer or a clothes or dish washer...and--without doing more research I want to do right now, I THINK there may be a longstanding rule about discharging those in coastal waters....
--Peggie
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08-04-2018, 10:15 PM
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City: Miami Florida
Vessel Name: Possum
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BruceK
What about water from engine exhausts?
Comes out mixed with pollutants from combustion,and at times unburned fuel and oil. That`s got to be the next target for the grey water banning crowd. Maybe an onboard filtration plant would solve it.
Keel cooling you say? What about air pollution from the exhaust stack,that`s going to need filtering and particle collection.
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Bruce, shut up. You’ll give them ideas.
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Parks Masterson
Retired from Hopkins-Carter Marine Supply
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08-04-2018, 10:39 PM
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City: AR
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Nah...their whole focus is on BOD...they're convinced that boats cause algae blooms.
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08-05-2018, 12:38 AM
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Guru
City: Duvall, Wa. USA
Vessel Name: Beach Music II
Vessel Model: 2003 Mainship 430 Trawler
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Peggie!!!! Now they're not going to let us wash the bird poop off the deck!
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08-05-2018, 01:19 AM
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City: Port Townsend Washington
Vessel Name: " OTTER "
Vessel Model: Ocean Alexander Europa 40
Join Date: Nov 2009
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Just another example of the govt. saving us from ourselves...
Undoubtedly there is absolutely no science to support the regulations on grey water.
I for one will keep showering and smile when the shower sump pump kicks on and dumps the evil water overboard.
HOLLYWOOD
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08-05-2018, 01:36 AM
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Guru
City: Seattle, WA USA and San Carlos, Sonora MX
Vessel Name: Domino and Libra
Vessel Model: Malcom Tennant 20M and Noordzee Kotter 52
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This ‘no grey water discharge ‘ must be and must have been the case in Europe for some time. When I brought Libra home from Europe she had only one 250 gallon holding tank with mixture of black and grey water. No way to discharge grey water anywhere except thru the pump out.
Klee Wyck was built over there a couple of years before Libra and has sumps that discharge showers and sinks directly overboard with no holding.
You learn to pay attention and get used to it.
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