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10-25-2022, 05:49 PM
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Member
City: Mystic
Join Date: Apr 2022
Posts: 12
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Grand Banks Fresh Water Piping
What are the inside and outside diameters of the original black plastic fresh water plumbing hoses/pipes used on the Grand Banks?
They appear to be 1/2 inch, but maybe slightly different.
Do conventional modern sharkbite fitings work on those?
Do conventional pipe thread fittings work with the GB fittings?
Please advise
Thank you
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10-25-2022, 06:07 PM
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Veteran Member
City: Seattle
Vessel Name: Bailey
Vessel Model: 46' Grand Banks Motor Yacht
Join Date: Apr 2019
Posts: 94
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Do you have pictures?
Ours is a '95 and has grey "Qest” Polybutylene throughout which we are gradually changing over to pex. There is a Sharkbite PEX to Polybutylene, labeled PEX to PB. Ours is 3/4” from the tanks to pump and 1/2” from filters to point of use.
We are currently in the process of refitting this.
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10-26-2022, 11:03 AM
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Guru
City: Bethesda, MD
Vessel Name: Solstice
Vessel Model: Grand Banks 47 Eastbay FB
Join Date: Feb 2018
Posts: 2,068
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Most boat vendors have used an assortment of plumbing systems, varied over time. What year/model is your boat?
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10-29-2022, 09:03 PM
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Guru
City: Gulf Islands, BC Canada
Vessel Name: Sea Sanctuary
Vessel Model: Bayliner 4588
Join Date: Jul 2019
Posts: 3,707
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OP What year is your boat. My GB36 1971 has black pipes. They are very close to 1/2inch ID and with a heat gun 1/2" barb fittings have worked.
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01-28-2023, 02:37 PM
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Member
City: North Vancouver
Vessel Name: RumRunner
Vessel Model: GB36 Classic 1980
Join Date: Dec 2019
Posts: 17
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Interesting. My 1980 GB36 has the black plastic which measures 0.67"od so sharkbite and the like will not work since they only work on 0.625"od. I have a leak so need to figure something out soon. Will likely try the barb. Hope this doesn't mean replumbing the whole boat!!
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01-28-2023, 03:12 PM
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Guru
City: Gulf Islands, BC Canada
Vessel Name: Sea Sanctuary
Vessel Model: Bayliner 4588
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Quote:
Originally Posted by kdebelser
Interesting. My 1980 GB36 has the black plastic which measures 0.67"od so sharkbite and the like will not work since they only work on 0.625"od. I have a leak so need to figure something out soon. Will likely try the barb. Hope this doesn't mean replumbing the whole boat!!
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Get a 1/2' OD fitting, I used a plastic grey barbed and then heat gun on the black, while warm clamp it tight, heat again, tighten. Test, if it leaks start over. Mine has not leaked in two years now. (still own the GB)
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You only need one working engine. That is why I have two.
Sea Sanctuary-new to me 1992 Bayliner 4588
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01-28-2023, 05:03 PM
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Guru
City: Narragansett Bay
Vessel Model: Grand Banks 36
Join Date: Sep 2016
Posts: 1,683
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So I have the gray pipe. 84 Grand Banks. I am under the impression that gray is polybutylene. What is the black? I know Sharkbite has polybutylene to Pex fittings.
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01-28-2023, 05:14 PM
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Guru
City: Gulf Islands, BC Canada
Vessel Name: Sea Sanctuary
Vessel Model: Bayliner 4588
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cigatoo
So I have the gray pipe. 84 Grand Banks. I am under the impression that gray is polybutylene. What is the black? I know Sharkbite has polybutylene to Pex fittings.
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black plastic poly pipe. I thought it was way back, but Home depo sells it.
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SteveK
You only need one working engine. That is why I have two.
Sea Sanctuary-new to me 1992 Bayliner 4588
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01-28-2023, 07:20 PM
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Member
City: North Vancouver
Vessel Name: RumRunner
Vessel Model: GB36 Classic 1980
Join Date: Dec 2019
Posts: 17
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I’m not sure what the black is on my boat but it’s not the current pvc. Different dimensions. Going to try the bards as someone suggested. Failing that may have to replace it with pex.
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01-28-2023, 09:42 PM
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Guru
City: Gulf Islands, BC Canada
Vessel Name: Sea Sanctuary
Vessel Model: Bayliner 4588
Join Date: Jul 2019
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Quote:
Originally Posted by kdebelser
I’m not sure what the black is on my boat but it’s not the current pvc. Different dimensions. Going to try the bards as someone suggested. Failing that may have to replace it with pex.
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Remember the boat was not built on these shores, maybe metric.
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You only need one working engine. That is why I have two.
Sea Sanctuary-new to me 1992 Bayliner 4588
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01-29-2023, 12:50 AM
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Moderator Emeritus
City: Au Gres, MI
Vessel Name: Black Dog
Vessel Model: Formula 41PC
Join Date: Jul 2015
Posts: 18,558
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SteveK
Remember the boat was not built on these shores, maybe metric.
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Yes, or some unusual pipe used in the far east. Replumbing may be the best bet. If it is leaking in one place now it may start leaking in more tomorrow or the next day. We replumbed a 46’ trawler with SeaTech, now it is called something else, and it was really pretty easy. We special ordered straight sticks of the pipe as what WMP had in stock was in rolls. And trying to straighten it out was next to impossible. With the straight sticks we could push it through closed areas and the rolled up pipe would just curl up inside the areas.
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01-30-2023, 08:18 AM
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Guru
City: Olympia
Vessel Name: Rendezvous
Vessel Model: Blue water 40
Join Date: Aug 2021
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Sounds like it could be 17mm tubing. There are fittings available, but not as good of a selection as more common sizes.
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