Good opportunity for someone!!

[South of Heaven]

I would love to know what The Leishman's would say about this boat! PAE and Nordhavn overbuilds everything. I'm sure this boat could be restored to her former glory.

However, I do find it odd that the current owners are selling after only 2 years. They must have had another accident or damage AFTER the boat yard fall. This old boat has been through some "interesting" times!

[OldDan1943]

Originally Posted by South of Heaven

I would love to know what The Leishman's would say about this boat! PAE and Nordhavn overbuilds everything. I'm sure this boat could be restored to her former glory.

However, I do find it odd that the current owners are selling after only 2 years. They must have had another accident or damage AFTER the boat yard fall. This old boat has been through some "interesting" times!

Or, they fulfilled their dream or the wife said "enough" or perhaps the owner died?

I see the red tape is still on the one gage. I put tape on them for 'red line' RPM and temps.
If you look closely, you can see the red panel in the forward shower. There is another in the owner's shower. It reads, "Caution, hot water is hot."
So many time guests do not understand the hot water on a boat is actually very hot. Fewer screams after I posted those plaques.

[nussbda]

We met the current owners last winter in Maryland. They're from Washington State. They brought the boat in Florida and cruised up the east coast. I assume they decided it was too expensive to ship her to the west coast so they put her up for sale.

[KenM]

When I look at the pictures, I shudder at the cost of keeping this boat afloat and in good repair... Way more than my wallet, that's for sure.....

[BandB]

Thing is none of us know what it needs, what it's true condition is at this moment. Someone who loves to gamble on reclamation projects would like it at half the asking price. Someone more conservative wouldn't touch it. Someone lacking knowledge is more likely to end up purchasing at 25% off the current asking price.

The problem is it might be a great buy but until fully repaired and on the water one will not really know.

[OldDan1943]

Thinking of all they put into that N46, they could have bought a new of similar length.
Looking at the pictures, I see the cord I put on the wheel, for centering the rudder.
Thee used to be a 20KW gen in the engine room, glad they took it out. The engine room was very tight with the 20KW in it. The first owner wanted to run a dive compressor.
Like all of us, we cannot get out of out boat what we put into it, when we sell it. In this case, I know he had a money bucket ..... I hate to think what I put into it and then, his 'additions' was monumental. Prior to the drop, a trip to Mexico was planned. The boat was sound and ready to go.

[Donsan]

Little lost on the timeline here. Was this boat dropped on the hard 10 years ago?

[South of Heaven]

As per the brokers summary on the listing it says that the owners have been cruising on it for the past two years. So I'm assuming it doesn't need another massive amount of work done.

Thats why in my first post I put a ballpark figure of $75-100k for an after purchase repair bill. But who knows! I just cant imagine there being any earth shattering issues if they're cruising on it now......

[OldDan1943]

Originally Posted by South of Heaven

As per the brokers summary on the listing it says that the owners have been cruising on it for the past two years. So I'm assuming it doesn't need another massive amount of work done.

Thats why in my first post I put a ballpark figure of $75-100k for an after purchase repair bill. But who knows! I just cant imagine there being any earth shattering issues if they're cruising on it now......

Looking at the pictures, I see a lot of inside leakage around the windows. It can all be repaired but, at what expense. I suspect all the windows will have to be removed and reset.
That was/is a very well equipped boat. Fill it up with 1000 gal of fuel, 500 gallons of water and you can go anywhere. I would recommend a water maker with a larger capacity than the one installed. It was 150gpd, 12 vt.
It had a cold plate and washer/dryer. I cant say for sure but, it looks like they removed the washer/dryer. The pics do not show the cedar line closet and drawers, in the forward stateroom nor the under berth storage. I had the fwd stateroom reworked to give my ex her own space. Approx cost, between $30K and $40K. Yup, got it at a reduced price but, it was redone by a A#1 cabinet maker who was moving into the boating world.
As I said, it was a well equipped boat and now, the current owner upgraded all the electronics too.
All the work I had done, was top rate (expensive). It looks like all the work he had done was top rate (expensive).
I suspect, if it weren't for the panel water damage, I suspect that boat would be sold. Let's face it, the hull was rebuilt to at least to Nordhavn's standards.
Hmmmm, there was a 8KW gen in the aft lazarette, I wonder if it is still there.
That boat really deserves many many years of 'wandering' around the ocean.
I miss it but, I have moved on. I dont need 2 staterooms if no one wants to go with me. SHRUG
Naturally, I would encourage any potential owner to have an 'intense' survey completed. If there are questions, survey again address the points of concern.

[OldDan1943]

Originally Posted by Donsan

Little lost on the timeline here. Was this boat dropped on the hard 10 years ago?

Understand the settlement was confidential and I cannot go into detail beyond what the broker said. It was dropped in the yard. "Fell off the jacks." How long ago? Maybe 10 years maybe less but more than 5. I'd have to really think about it.
I think, in this case, the workmanship was proven by 2 years of cruising.
If I were looking to get into the Nordhavan market, I'd give serious consideration to buying it. It is not an endorsement just an option.
Get it surveyed, study the survey and if necessary get it surveyed again, addressing the points of concern.
I wish one or two of you folks, who live close, would go and visit the boat and report back to us. Realize, the windows can be removed and reset, interior panel can be replaced. While you are there, check and see if the washer/dryer is there and if the fuel polishing and transfer pump is still there. I will admit, the fuel oil transfer manifold takes some time to understand. Get a stool and a piece of paper, draw it out..... and study it.
I would not hesitate riding the boat to Bermuda and back. I am pretty sure the 1000 gallons would get you there but then, you would have to refuel for the return trip.
Once you get beyond the "this boat was dropped" syndrome, you just might fall in love with the boat. Once the suspect windows are removed and reset, and the obvious deck leaks are addressed, a good cabinet maker can replace all the damaged panelling.
That boat deserves a good life.

[South of Heaven]

OldDan: Ill go with you....unless you're looking for a young, blonde companion instead!

[Donsan]

Originally Posted by OldDan1943

Understand the settlement was confidential and I cannot go into detail beyond what the broker said.

Apologize for asking for something that might be construed as confidential. Had no idea boat damage settlements fell into that realm.

[BandB]

Originally Posted by Donsan

Apologize for asking for something that might be construed as confidential. Had no idea boat damage settlements fell into that realm.

The vast majority of negotiated settlements are made so, even in cases it would appear unnecessary. Insurers and others do not want the next persons to know what they paid the previous and for what. Often people end up getting court orders to open up the history if they end up in litigation.

[OldDan1943]

Again I went back and studied the pictures, the forward cedar lined closet is there. I looks like they opted out on the washer/dryer. There is mention of the fuel transfer pump and polishing filter.

[Seevee]

This would be one heck of a fine project to take on, but I'm beyond the project years. But, I'd love it, and the sense of accomplishment after the project would be priceless.

Great Boat

[OldDan1943]

Originally Posted by Seevee

This would be one heck of a fine project to take on, but I'm beyond the project years. But, I'd love it, and the sense of accomplishment after the project would be priceless.

Great Boat

You could farm out the windows and wood work to a good shipwright who is very proud of his work and can show you his work. Might take a year to complete but then, you could set off on a fantastic voyage.

With a good water maker, put the washer/dryer back in and no need for 'navy showers'. There are/were 5 water tanks. The N46, I am familiar with, WINK WINK. I didn't know about the valving for tank #5 for about a month. LOL

[Daveo]

Indeed a great hull and design. Perhaps a great opportunity. I looked long and hard at that boat when it was for sale on the hard in Fort Lauderdale where the accident occurred. After the hull was repaired and the new genny installed. All the work done appeared to be done right. My offer wasn’t accepted so we never got to survey.

[OldDan1943]

Originally Posted by Daveo

Indeed a great hull and design. Perhaps a great opportunity. I looked long and hard at that boat when it was for sale on the hard in Fort Lauderdale where the accident occurred. After the hull was repaired and the new genny installed. All the work done appeared to be done right. My offer wasn’t accepted so we never got to survey.

May I ask your offer?
I am not about to make an offer on my ex-boat, just curious

[Daveo]

150k

[OldDan1943]

They were asking?