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03-15-2020, 10:16 AM
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City: Texas
Join Date: Mar 2020
Posts: 23
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Paddlewheeler on the Ponchatrain
Hi Gang
I am in process of purchasing a 52’ custom built paddlewheeler, for restoration and Liveaboard! It is a small, unique community of sailors but they don’t have a strong web presence, so I decided to join this forum as it seems to be full of likeminded folks!
And I’m sure my father-in-law is somewhere on here, as he’s got an Albin 36 AND another smaller trawler.
Anyway, I’ll be poking around asking questions and looking for advice. Here is a picture of the old girl; named The Pelican.
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03-15-2020, 10:23 AM
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Guru
City: Powell River, BC
Vessel Name: Northern Spy
Vessel Model: Nordic Tug 26
Join Date: Feb 2012
Posts: 4,075
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Well. This is different. Welcome!
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03-15-2020, 10:41 AM
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Guru
City: Concrete Washington State
Vessel Name: Willy
Vessel Model: Willard Nomad 30'
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 18,743
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Is the paddle wheel powered by water or does it push water?
How many rudders does she have.
I’ve seen some interesting arrangements on sternwheelers.
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North Western Washington State USA
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03-15-2020, 08:36 PM
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Member
City: Texas
Join Date: Mar 2020
Posts: 23
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The wheel pushes water. It’s driven by a Perkins 220hp diesel connected to a link belt gear box and chain drive. It’s flat bottomed and sails primarily on inland waterways.
I know it’s not a trawler, but it’s a boat built for travel and adventure! I feel the spirit of it is in keeping with what goes on around here, and the specific info I’m looking for is in abundance here.
A pic of the wheel
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03-15-2020, 08:37 PM
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City: Texas
Join Date: Mar 2020
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It’s got two main rudders aft of the wheel. This one seems to be lacking the monkey rudders that are normally installed forward of the wheel, which manage the astern handling.
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03-15-2020, 08:59 PM
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Guru
City: Oconto, WI
Vessel Name: Best Alternative
Vessel Model: 36 Albin Aft Cabin
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 3,145
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Interesting and really beautiful.
Shield that chain and sprocket before somebody looses an arm or finger.
Your lake looks as High as Lake Michigan, overflowing the banks most of last year.
pete
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03-15-2020, 09:24 PM
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Guru
City: Southport, FL near Panama City
Vessel Name: FROLIC
Vessel Model: Mainship 30 Pilot II since 2015. GB-42 1986-2015. Former Unlimited Tonnage Master
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 4,984
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Wheeler
The wheel pushes water. It’s driven by a Perkins 220hp diesel connected to a link belt gear box and chain drive. It’s flat bottomed and sails primarily on inland waterways.
I know it’s not a trawler, but it’s a boat built for travel and adventure! I feel the spirit of it is in keeping with what goes on around here, and the specific info I’m looking for is in abundance here.
A pic of the wheel
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You are perfectly correct and in tune! Welcome aboard!
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FROLIC (2005 MainShip 30 Pilot II)
Panama City area
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03-15-2020, 10:03 PM
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TF Site Team
City: California Delta
Vessel Name: FlyWright
Vessel Model: 1977 Marshall Californian 34 LRC
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 13,728
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Now I know why we call our props wheels!
Welcome to the forum! How old is the vessel?
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03-15-2020, 11:27 PM
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TF Site Team
City: Ex-Brisbane, (Australia), now Bribie Island, Qld
Vessel Name: Now boatless - sold 6/2018
Vessel Model: Had a Clipper (CHB) 34
Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 10,101
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Wheeler
Hi Gang
I am in process of purchasing a 52’ custom built paddlewheeler, for restoration and Liveaboard! It is a small, unique community of sailors but they don’t have a strong web presence, so I decided to join this forum as it seems to be full of likeminded folks!
And I’m sure my father-in-law is somewhere on here, as he’s got an Albin 36 AND another smaller trawler.
Anyway, I’ll be poking around asking questions and looking for advice. Here is a picture of the old girl; named The Pelican.
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Yes, indeed, although called trawler forum, anything that floats is welcome on here, as long as accompanied by photos, of course. I love the look of that paddle-steamer. Hey, what do you call one that has diesel engines..? Not literally a steamer is it..? I see - you post answered my own question - paddle-wheeler. Works for me..! I suspect the two Kookaburra Queens on our Brisbane river are the same.
https://kookaburrariverqueens.com
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03-16-2020, 08:55 AM
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Senior Member
City: Ft. Myers, FL.
Vessel Name: Chasing 80
Vessel Model: Chris Craft Constellation 460
Join Date: Dec 2010
Posts: 142
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Is that the boat up the Tickfaw river? If so I saw it last spring while exploring the area by dingy from the Blood River Marina. While passing I (briefly) thought about what a fun project it would be! My wife just looked at me and quickly said NO before I could even mention it....
I'm looking forward to following your progress. That's a truly beautiful cruising area that most boaters never see. Good Luck!!
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03-16-2020, 09:24 AM
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Guru
City: Mississippi
Vessel Name: ADAGIO
Vessel Model: CHB Present 42 Sundeck
Join Date: Jul 2014
Posts: 920
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Now this is going to be a fun project Good luck and keep us posted.
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03-16-2020, 09:28 AM
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Senior Member
City: Jacksonville, FL
Join Date: Nov 2016
Posts: 124
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More photos please!
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03-16-2020, 01:22 PM
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Member
City: Texas
Join Date: Mar 2020
Posts: 23
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Thanks for the warm welcome! To answer a few questions:
While a paddlewheeler, this one is known more specifically as a stern wheeler. As opposed to a side wheeler, which would have a wheel either side.
The hull is 52’ x 17’. Add the wheel and LOA is ~63’. Custom built between 1989 and 1991.
I’ve been busy calling and speaking to the old timers that have built these and operate them today. It is not a young mans game. They have been great and I’m learning a lot.
I’m putting together a budget and a list of comps before making an offer. Lots of research so far and the more I learn, the more interested I get!
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03-16-2020, 01:26 PM
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Member
City: Texas
Join Date: Mar 2020
Posts: 23
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Paddlewheeler on the Ponchatrain
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03-16-2020, 01:52 PM
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Senior Member
City: Jacksonville, FL
Join Date: Nov 2016
Posts: 124
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Way cool!
Thank you!
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03-16-2020, 05:20 PM
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TF Site Team/Forum Founder
City: League City, Tx
Vessel Name: Floatsome & Jetsome
Vessel Model: Meridian 411
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 7,332
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WOW!!! Very nice!!! Welocme aboard!
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Prairie 29...Perkins 4236...Sold
Mainship Pilot 30...Yanmar 4LHA-STP...Sold
Carver 356...T-Cummins 330B...Sold
Meridian 411...T-Cummins 450C
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03-16-2020, 05:25 PM
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Guru
City: San Diego
Vessel Model: Helmsman 4304
Join Date: May 2016
Posts: 2,005
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We love stuff like this. Please Keep us updated with photos. Best.
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03-16-2020, 06:25 PM
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Senior Member
City: Matagorda Bay
Vessel Name: Salty
Vessel Model: 2005 Defever 44
Join Date: May 2013
Posts: 227
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Nice! And welcome aboard!
It will be interesting to hear her history and see your renovations in progress.
I saw a wheeler similar to her in Matagorda Bay about 30 years ago....got a picture somewhere that I'll have to dig out of the archives.
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Luke
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03-19-2020, 08:29 PM
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Guru
City: Saint Petersburg
Vessel Name: Weebles
Vessel Model: 1970 Willard 36 Trawler
Join Date: Mar 2019
Posts: 7,179
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So......as far as prop-walk, which side does she pull when backing down?
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03-19-2020, 08:52 PM
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Member
City: Texas
Join Date: Mar 2020
Posts: 23
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mvweebles
So......as far as prop-walk, which side does she pull when backing down?
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Straight astern!
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