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05-26-2022, 01:05 PM
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#161
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City: NC
Join Date: Jan 2014
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Originally Posted by TowLou
Some heating oil blends will not have the luberciticy added. You will need to be sure. Delivered home heating oil in north NJ and loaded up in Newark every day during the oil season. Some lanes were just just died fuel oil and other lanes could get clear, died off road, and heating oil. They changed the racks so the arms that used to only do ho could also do died off road because they added luberciticy to the arm.
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Yep. I have read that in some areas, home heating oil is diesel fuel. If my memory is correct, diesel fuel is a higher standard than heating oil and in some areas you get diesel delivered to house for heating use. Some engines won't care about the differences in the fuel but some will. Not worth it to me run a fuel of unknown quality/type in the engine.
The price difference is likely to be in taxes, so just make sure to get diesel that is for off road use and is not taxed for road use.
Later,
Dan
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05-26-2022, 01:10 PM
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#162
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Guru
City: Newport, R.I.
Vessel Name: Hippocampus
Vessel Model: Nordic Tug 42
Join Date: Jul 2020
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did save a few bucks topping off before leaving from RI to VA. Needed 315g so split a tank with a small commercial trawler. Fuel was suitable for marine engines. Did get volume discount. Think that’s not uncommonly done. Fuel company wants to send out one full truck and have an empty truck return.
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05-26-2022, 01:47 PM
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#163
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Senior Member
City: North NJ
Vessel Name: Bassey
Vessel Model: 17' Bass
Join Date: Aug 2016
Posts: 438
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dannc
Yep. I have read that in some areas, home heating oil is diesel fuel. If my memory is correct, diesel fuel is a higher standard than heating oil and in some areas you get diesel delivered to house for heating use. Some engines won't care about the differences in the fuel but some will. Not worth it to me run a fuel of unknown quality/type in the engine.
The price difference is likely to be in taxes, so just make sure to get diesel that is for off road use and is not taxed for road use.
Later,
Dan
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It starts out of the same tank diesel and HO fuels. At the arm upon delivery pending what is being picked up to the delivery truck at the racks is where the addatives, die, and even blends for winter addatives. I watched the meter ad they inject into the load. It may be half a gallon to a 4500 gallon load but each blend is different but yes the base fuel is same.
I could get clear, off road, and HO all outta the same arm at some of the bottom load arms but each ratio of each addative is different like luberciticy.
If ever getting heating oil from the truck id add some power service into the tank to be sure it had some luberciticy. Because it may not and if you habe a newer diesel it may have toghter tolerance inside the fuel system and you could over time prematurely wear out your fuel system.
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05-26-2022, 01:50 PM
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#164
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Guru
City: Newport, R.I.
Vessel Name: Hippocampus
Vessel Model: Nordic Tug 42
Join Date: Jul 2020
Posts: 3,893
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Good advise. Not knowing unless I see the valtec sign I do that anyway.
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05-26-2022, 09:18 PM
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#165
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TF Site Team
City: MX, thru Canal to Bahamas
Vessel Name: Muirgen
Vessel Model: 50' Beebe Passagemaker
Join Date: May 2019
Posts: 3,402
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Filled up at Covich in Seattle today. $5,402.25 for 1000 gallons . . .
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05-27-2022, 11:46 AM
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#166
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Guru
City: Inside Passage Summer/Columbia River Winter
Vessel Name: Alaskan Sea-Duction
Vessel Model: 1988 M/Y Camargue YachtFisher
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 8,050
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Quote:
Originally Posted by slowgoesit
Filled up at Covich in Seattle today. $5,402.25 for 1000 gallons . . .
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Ouch! Were will be your next fill up?
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05-27-2022, 03:40 PM
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#167
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Guru
City: Gulf Islands, BC Canada
Vessel Name: Sea Sanctuary
Vessel Model: Bayliner 4588
Join Date: Jul 2019
Posts: 5,018
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Alaskan Sea-Duction
Ouch! Were will be your next fill up?
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And are your filler tubes anti siphon, asking for a friend
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You only need one working engine. That is why I have two.
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05-28-2022, 04:45 PM
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#168
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TF Site Team
City: MX, thru Canal to Bahamas
Vessel Name: Muirgen
Vessel Model: 50' Beebe Passagemaker
Join Date: May 2019
Posts: 3,402
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Alaskan Sea-Duction
Ouch! Were will be your next fill up?
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We have about 1525 gallons on board right now. We'll go to AK and back, and still probably have about 500 to 700 gallons left when we get back to WA, depending on how much we stray off the straight line. We can get more fuel when we return, or definitely by Winter depending on price of fuel. Hopefully it will go down.
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05-28-2022, 04:46 PM
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#169
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TF Site Team
City: MX, thru Canal to Bahamas
Vessel Name: Muirgen
Vessel Model: 50' Beebe Passagemaker
Join Date: May 2019
Posts: 3,402
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Soo-Valley
And are your filler tubes anti siphon, asking for a friend
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They will be shortly!
Until then, Steve, I'm turning off the AIS.
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Vessel Model: 50' Beebe Passagemaker
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05-28-2022, 07:53 PM
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#170
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Guru
City: Gulf Islands, BC Canada
Vessel Name: Sea Sanctuary
Vessel Model: Bayliner 4588
Join Date: Jul 2019
Posts: 5,018
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Quote:
Originally Posted by slowgoesit
They will be shortly!
Until then, Steve, I'm turning off the AIS.
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safe travels.
And have a good nights sleep in Nanaimo.
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You only need one working engine. That is why I have two.
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05-28-2022, 11:31 PM
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#171
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Guru
Join Date: Dec 2018
Posts: 565
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Local Diesel fuel (Langley, British Columbia) at gas stations is the equivalent of $6.58 USD per gallon. I imagine at a fuel dock it is probably more.
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05-29-2022, 06:33 AM
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#172
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Guru
City: Stratford, CT
Vessel Name: Blue Moon
Vessel Model: Mainship Pilot 355
Join Date: Jan 2019
Posts: 3,937
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Spinner
Local Diesel fuel (Langley, British Columbia) at gas stations is the equivalent of $6.58 USD per gallon. I imagine at a fuel dock it is probably more.
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Not always. Where I am, dock diesel is actually cheaper than road diesel because of taxes, even with the boating premium pricing. The diffences in pricing between boating and road fuels seems much less than in the past. I wonder if marinas are thinking it's better for them to keep prices down. People who need to drive have to pay whatever the price is. Boating is more discretionary for most.
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08-06-2022, 09:28 AM
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#173
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Guru
City: Centreville MD
Vessel Name: Resilient
Vessel Model: Helmsman Trawlers 38E
Join Date: Dec 2020
Posts: 1,510
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08-06-2022, 09:42 AM
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#174
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Senior Member
City: Bradenton FL
Vessel Name: Black Horse
Vessel Model: Med Yachts 62
Join Date: Mar 2021
Posts: 197
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Could it have something to do with this? Hmmmm.......
https://gcaptain.com/the-world-cant-...exports-surge/
Guess this is not part of 'America First'.....
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08-06-2022, 09:48 AM
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#175
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Guru
City: Aventura FL
Vessel Name: Kinja
Vessel Model: American Tug 34 #116 2008
Join Date: Oct 2017
Posts: 10,595
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Where is he going to lunch? Perhaps he can make the ultimate sacrifice and drive to Burger King or buy a smaller boat or eat at the dock or parley the lunch time into a month long trip?
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08-06-2022, 10:07 AM
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#176
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Guru
City: Centreville MD
Vessel Name: Resilient
Vessel Model: Helmsman Trawlers 38E
Join Date: Dec 2020
Posts: 1,510
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Quote:
Originally Posted by markpj23
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wow
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08-06-2022, 01:15 PM
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#177
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Senior Member
City: Lake Wales/Greenbackville
Vessel Name: "OLD BAY"
Vessel Model: 1979 Grand Banks #599
Join Date: May 2022
Posts: 294
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I will not insert a political comment here.
Sent from my SM-G715U1 using Trawler Forum mobile app
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08-06-2022, 01:29 PM
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#178
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Guru
City: Sioux Falls, South Dakota
Vessel Name: Xanadu
Vessel Model: Mainship 37 Motor Yacht
Join Date: Oct 2013
Posts: 2,472
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Powerful temptation, but I will shut up.
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08-06-2022, 04:52 PM
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#179
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Guru
City: Queensland
Vessel Model: Milkraft 60 converted timber prawn trawler
Join Date: Jul 2016
Posts: 5,482
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FWT
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Gotta be a piss take surely
Add: yep, Murdoch rag, not real news at all.
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A large boat around 70 feet will burn roughly 130 gallons per hour just to keep the engines running. When it’s actually sailing it will use even more
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Our 60 fter can do normal cruising speed for 32 hours on that 130 gallons of fuel.
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08-06-2022, 07:02 PM
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#180
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Guru
City: Groton, CT
Vessel Name: Datenight
Vessel Model: North Pacific 45
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 1,106
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Location is a factor. This week $9.00/gallon in Nantucket, MA., $4.35/ gallon in New Bedford, MA. Of course there is a big difference between a commercial port and one for the beautiful and rich. Thankfully I only needed 2.1 gallons of gasoline for the dinghy. Got away for $17.67!
Rob
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