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Old 09-14-2020, 04:07 PM   #21
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Chainsaw the stern at the aft cabin. I see the forward half as a Tiki bar parked up against the elevated veranda of my home. Thank God it is 800 miles away so that will never happen.
I will take the Stern for my bar then !

No really I am looking for an old teak stern to make into a bar!
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Old 09-14-2020, 04:17 PM   #22
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You must be referring to the 'Forward' radar (Open Array) as opposed to the "Aft" radar (Dome) on the fold-down mast. Kind of reminds me of the 70's with the working tv set sitting on the broken console TV set. LMFAO!!!!
This was the setup on my woodie GB42 for the only radar aboard. I placed the display at the lower station which is where you needed to be when piloting in reduced viz because the controls for the fog horn, lights, windshield wipers, etc were located. So nobody was topside when the radar was in use. Since the mast was lowered every time we returned to covered home slip, it was essential that the mast was as light as possible pus who wants to work the multi-part radar cable continually being bent back and forth?
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Old 09-28-2020, 12:46 PM   #23
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Some of those fittings, like the hawse holes, anchor hawsepipes, cleats and any medallions or footpads with the "Grand Banks" name are in demand by GB restorers. There's probably some nice teak and mahogany in there, too. Engines? Mebbe, mebbe not.

Otherwise, it's dump material.
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Old 09-28-2020, 08:47 PM   #24
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A guy recently crashed into a seawall with a about-50-feet OceanAlexander, then pulled back out a bit and it sank. He had no insurance and it took some salvage guys days to get it towed away by hooking it to the side of a barge. Lake St. Clair is very shallow and they lost it a couple times. The salvage bill, responsibility of the owner, was the issue. Have no idea how that worked out. It was a scene, a sight to behold, watching that barge go down the lake with only the cabin of that boat sticking up out of the water. Nope, leave that GB alone!
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Old 09-28-2020, 10:02 PM   #25
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Gosh there are a lot of negative nancies in here!


I got my trawler for free, a clipper 34 and very similar to the GB36. Twin Lehmans etc etc.



Yes it was a lot of work. But after a couple of years we have a completely new hull, rebuilt engines, and everything else more or less sorted.


I learned more in that project than I could ever learn from reading books and watching you tube. The project had its moments, still does. But has brought a helluva lot of satisfaction.


If I had the chance again I'd give it a crack with a 42. And Im far better set up now. Too bad I live on a different continent otherwise I would. These beautiful boats should be preserved and in the right circumstances why not?
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Old 09-28-2020, 11:50 PM   #26
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Whenever I see an old boat in this condition, I think of how the first owner must have felt the first time he brought her home.
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Old 09-29-2020, 05:25 AM   #27
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Gosh there are a lot of negative nancies in here!


I got my trawler for free, a clipper 34 and very similar to the GB36. Twin Lehmans etc etc.



Yes it was a lot of work. But after a couple of years we have a completely new hull, rebuilt engines, and everything else more or less sorted.


I learned more in that project than I could ever learn from reading books and watching you tube. The project had its moments, still does. But has brought a helluva lot of satisfaction.


If I had the chance again I'd give it a crack with a 42. And Im far better set up now. Too bad I live on a different continent otherwise I would. These beautiful boats should be preserved and in the right circumstances why not?
Maybe in Austrailia...heck look at one of the longest running threads on TF about a rebuilt boat, took something like 8 years...what dedication! I won't give away the ending so I am not a negative Nancy.

But over in the US, for every restored boat, there are hundred if not thousands sitting half done with little or no hope someone will finish them. Cant say the only reason, as I am sure there are many reasons they wont be finished. Everything from impatience to use it, money, energy.............
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Old 09-29-2020, 08:53 AM   #28
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Whenever I see an old boat in this condition, I think of how the first owner must have felt the first time he brought her home.
Wow!!!! So do I!!!!
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Old 09-29-2020, 09:23 AM   #29
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Whenever I see an old boat in this condition, I think of how the first owner must have felt the first time he brought her home.
I sometimes wonder what happened for the last owner, that let the condition slide. Sometimes things just fall out of favor, or the money runs out, or people pass away. Shame to see a boat go to waste, but every derelict out there started as someone's brand new pride-and-joy.
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Old 09-29-2020, 07:39 PM   #30
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The real cost of boats

The total loss of value reveals the real total cost of boat ownership. The free 40-foot boat new today probably costs about $600,000 nicely equipped. With a 40-year life, that comes to $15,000 per year. Then one has to add slip, consumables, insurance and repairs for another $15,000 if moderately used.
With $30,000 one can rent that boat for 40 days at $750/day and still come ahead by not having to worry about the damned thing.
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The real cost of boats

The total loss of value reveals the real total cost of boat ownership. The free 40-foot boat new today probably costs about $600,000 nicely equipped. With a 40-year life, that comes to $15,000 per year. Then one has to add slip, consumables, insurance and repairs for another $15,000 if moderately used.
With $30,000 one can rent that boat for 40 days at $750/day and still come ahead by not having to worry about the damned thing.
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Old 10-03-2020, 01:11 PM   #32
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rolo, 40 years of enjoyment versus 40 days. That's not even a comparison
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Old 10-03-2020, 01:50 PM   #33
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1st go do psychiatrist

2nd go see the "free" boat

3rd go back to psychiatrist

4th go see the "free" boat

Repeat over and over... until you are either convinced to forget about the boat, the boat rots away or you pass away!

Whatever you do or think - don't for a second believe that taking ownership of that tub a "good" deal - cause it simply is not!
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Old 10-03-2020, 03:56 PM   #34
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rolo, 40 years of enjoyment versus 40 days. That's not even a comparison
Art,
you got it wrong. It is 40 days every year for 40 years, not 40 days once.
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Old 10-03-2020, 07:21 PM   #35
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Actually there are probably a lot of useable parts especially the bronze pieces. The stanchions, hawes pipes, cleats, and other miscellaneous bronze fittings would be very worthwhile to salvage. The ships wheel is probably teak, and spoked with an outer 360degree teak rim, (like a destroyer wheel but all teak). And it probably does have Ford Lehman diesels below that one sees marketed for $4,000 - $5000 each.

I have an older Grand Banks, (79 Europa) and those fittings are beautiful and substantial. Sad to see an older quality built boat like the one advertised in such condition. Hopefully before she goes to the junk pile, some Grand Banks owner or part reseller will be able to remove all the “good stuff”.

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Old 10-03-2020, 11:18 PM   #36
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If it were close I would take it. All the teak alone is worth salvaging.
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If it were close I would take it. All the teak alone is worth salvaging.
Gee bligh. Wish I'd known that and known you, back when; 5 or 6 years ago there was an old GB 42' woodie freely available to me. Old girl had severe rot problems inside and outside. No bottom refastening either. Pair of diesels not started for many years. Bilge stunk of old diesel fuel; leaking tanks? She was afloat though, at a yacht club in San Rafael. I turned he down.

Maybe she could have been brought back enough to make it to Santa Cruz??
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I've often considered stashing an old woodie in my backyard rather than seeing them cut up. There seem to be a lit of Stephen's and Chris craft in the delta just hanging on. Im sure there will be another opportunity.
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Gee bligh. Wish I'd known that and known you, back when; 5 or 6 years ago there was an old GB 42' woodie freely available to me. Old girl had severe rot problems inside and outside. No bottom refastening either. Pair of diesels not started for many years. Bilge stunk of old diesel fuel; leaking tanks? She was afloat though, at a yacht club in San Rafael. I turned he down.

Maybe she could have been brought back enough to make it to Santa Cruz??
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if a lot of the frames are rotten, it wouldnt be too hard to grab the mahog planks. expensive stuff. But if you have to remove old fasteners from good wood, forget it!
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Not free, but $4k for a GB (36?) woody ain't bad.... It's pretty rough but Hull is sound and engines good according to the ad. It's not the boat work that scares me, its not being able to find insurance, mooring, haul out etc...
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