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"Reducing exhaust noise is a big part of the SeaClean filtration system as well because owners are as sensitive to noise as they are soot, sheens, and smells."

[RT Firefly]

Greetings,
Mr. BB. I must take a slight bit of umbrage at your comment that the SeaClean (SC) system is "expensive". It is my understanding that SC is quite competitively priced in comparison with the only other system potentially worth buying but might seem expensive because SC doesn't just sell a box of parts like all the others do, they sell, install, AND commission a custom engineered system that goes from the turbo to the through hull. No IKEA involved.

[Keysdisease]

Same comment applies, to make a comparison one would need to be familiar with both the DeAngelo filtration system and the one pictured

How do you "know" the DeAngelo system is "better?"

The photo I posted is of a soot filtration system and silencer for a generator, and separately a silencer for a propulsion system.

No worries, just curious

Originally Posted by RT Firefly

Greetings,
Mr. K. Apologies. Was commenting on the "filtration" technology only (SeaClean).

[BandB]

Originally Posted by RT Firefly

Greetings,
Mr. BB. I must take a slight bit of umbrage at your comment that the SeaClean (SC) system is "expensive". .

Expensive is a matter of point of reference. Not saying they're not competitive or their price is unreasonable. Owners of 164' yachts wouldn't worry about the expense. I think most owners of boats or trawler type boats, other than perhaps the owner of a new Nordhavn 62, would find them "expensive."

I'm fully aware of what they do and deliver and think they provide an excellent service. One captain I know with the system on the boat he runs, says the owner will never have another boat without it.

I think certain things became accepted by boaters years ago and no longer need to be. Noise and soot are a couple. Rolling is another.

[RT Firefly]

Greetings,
Mr. K. Dynamic, dual-homed subsystem destabilization coupled with invalidated, multiple protocol signal manipulation can result in temporary, unregistered timing lockout. Keep in mind as well that deprecated, fatal media de-synchronisation can also result in delayed, dynamic service intrusion. Software glitches (Permanent, illegal operation inconsistency) or redundant, non-static configuration incongruity are totally eliminated and modified by unfiltered, extraneous loading disturbance variations by means of localized, immediate request problem solving thus modifying AND controlling ANY undetermined, deprecated decryption signal.

So, as they say...Walla!

[Keysdisease]

It is quite normal human behavior to promote a system or service one has invested in. To suggest there may be a comparable or better system with a comparable or better company providing installation and service might undermine a persons purchasing decision, or their perception on a potential purchase, or just an opinion based on hearsay, public relations and advertising.

By claiming that one system is: "A much better system" than an unidentified system is an interesting observation.

A fact is that a very high percentage of Trawler types that frequent this site will never need to install one of these systems. Our children might, but not any time in the foreseeable future.

Many will however need risers, mixers and silencers, and an objective opinion of quality, performance, service and availability would be valuable information, if based on objective and accurate information.

Originally Posted by RT Firefly

Greetings,
Mr. K. Dynamic, dual-homed subsystem destabilization coupled with invalidated, multiple protocol signal manipulation can result in temporary, unregistered timing lockout. Keep in mind as well that deprecated, fatal media de-synchronisation can also result in delayed, dynamic service intrusion. Software glitches (Permanent, illegal operation inconsistency) or redundant, non-static configuration incongruity are totally eliminated and modified by unfiltered, extraneous loading disturbance variations by means of localized, immediate request problem solving thus modifying AND controlling ANY undetermined, deprecated decryption signal.

So, as they say...Walla!

[BandB]

Originally Posted by Keysdisease

It is quite normal human behavior to promote a system or service one has invested in. To suggest there may be a comparable or better system with a comparable or better company providing installation and service might undermine a persons purchasing decision, or their perception on a potential purchase, or just an opinion based on hearsay, public relations and advertising.

By claiming that one system is: "A much better system" than an unidentified system is an interesting observation.

A fact is that a very high percentage of Trawler types that frequent this site will never need to install one of these systems. Our children might, but not any time in the foreseeable future.

Many will however need risers, mixers and silencers, and an objective opinion of quality, performance, service and availability would be valuable information, if based on objective and accurate information.

So yours is the only objective opinion? What is your relationship with Marine Exhaust? Neither you nor RTF seem totally objective and barring undisclosed relationships with companies I have no problem with opinions, subjective expressions of belief.

Now, my opinion was objective and I was very clear that I didn't have experience with Marine Exhaust. On the other hand, I do feel Deangelo does excellent work and their product is good and this is based on first hand knowledge.

I think it's great that we have multiple suppliers of exhaust services.

Who is at 657?

[Keysdisease]

Hello Mr BandB,

I never offered an opinion or made a recommendation, I just questioned a comment I thought was perhaps unfounded. I also agreed with you and Mr F by saying "DeAngelo's reputation is earned and well deserved," and I will add that the quality and service at Marine Exhaust is also well deserved. Marine Exhaust until recently actually had a DeAngelo working there. The quality and performance of their product can be seen in many a Custom Sportfish built in the Stuart area where they have a very strong presence.

Marine Exhaust makes their own fiberglass mufflers, De'Angelo does not, which I stated as fact, not opinion.

We all have opinions, and I too have no problem with them when presented as opinion.

As for my relationships with these companies, I know people at DeAngelo and until recently at Marine Exhaust, I do not now, nor have I ever worked at either. I do however supply some components to that market segment.

I also agree that multiple suppliers create healthy competition which improves product and service and keeps prices competitive, the way a free market is supposed to work.

Originally Posted by BandB

So yours is the only objective opinion? What is your relationship with Marine Exhaust? Neither you nor RTF seem totally objective and barring undisclosed relationships with companies I have no problem with opinions, subjective expressions of belief.

Now, my opinion was objective and I was very clear that I didn't have experience with Marine Exhaust. On the other hand, I do feel Deangelo does excellent work and their product is good and this is based on first hand knowledge.

I think it's great that we have multiple suppliers of exhaust services.

Who is at 657?