Flags

[Giggitoni]

Scott, I think you're making a little bit too much of this thread.* I've been on this forum for four or five years now and I judge Marin to be a reasonable thinker and not too emotional in his replies with the rest of us.* In fact, politically, to me anyway,*he appears to be a couple of klicks to the right of center (I'll probably get jumped for saying that!).*

Marin just said that he flies the flag correctly 364 days per year (365 this year) and one day per year honors his father, etc.* Give it a rest!

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[Marin]

psneeld wrote:but if I'm gonna fly it...I'm NOT going to disrespect it.
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I'm curious where you get this "disrespect it" thing from.* When we fly the US flag, which is 99.99999 percent of the time when we're on the boat, it's not like we fly it upside down or with a big peace symbol spray painted on it or a red circle a diagonal bar drawn across it or anything.* Flying a different flag in place of the US flag is not disrespecting the flag, it's simpy not flying it on that occasion.


-- Edited by Marin on Monday 6th of February 2012 01:53:42 PM

[Marin]

Giggitoni wrote:
In fact, politically, to me anyway,*he appears to be a couple of klicks to the right of center (I'll probably get jumped for saying that!).*

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*No, you're right I think.* More than a couple of kicks, actually, with regards to things like the economy, self-responsibility, and self-reliance.

[JD]

KJ wrote:
Marin-- have you ever served in any branch of the U.S. military, Army, Navy, Air Force, Coast Guard?** Yes or no will do.************************* KJ

*Here we go with this old saw.* Once again, what does that have to do with anything.*

I'll say this again as I have before.* There were folks in the Navy with me that I would not let cut my grass, live next door to or date my daughter if I had one. One such person*had an accident while we were at Great Lakes going down the stairs from the second deck*on the way to the brig when the Fire Watch we were on found him going through some lockers.* But he can answer you question in the affirmative.

So how does he stack up in the equation of who's*good and who's not?*

[psneeld]

Giggitoni wrote:
Scott, I think you're making a little bit too much of this thread.* I've been on this forum for four or five years now and I judge Marin to be a reasonable thinker and not too emotional in his replies with the rest of us.* In fact, politically, to me anyway,*he appears to be a couple of klicks to the right of center (I'll probably get jumped for saying that!).*

Marin just said that he flies the flag correctly 364 days per year (365 this year) and one day per year honors his father, etc.* Give it a rest!

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*Why me and no one else?* I just pointed out how it it most commonly "correctly" flown and it went from there.* I posted at least one official link that concurred.* I can live with what's most "commonly" considered correct and what someone may consider respectful/disrespectful and leave it at that.*

And since when does "time" in a forum mean anything unless it's for social reasons*????* On*several other frorums where this same discussion was brought up the vets usually chimed in with more enthusiasm and many other links decsribing the "place of honor" for the home country ensign.* I was thinking the same might happen here.

Everyone's correct it's not a huge deal...but the thread was about flags and many described how they do it and some felt there was a correct way over just random placement.* Fly it any way you want to but don't expect me to just sit on the sidelines if you are going to defend the way you do it and it goes against the common grain of respect for it.

[psneeld]

JD wrote:KJ wrote:
Marin-- have you ever served in any branch of the U.S. military, Army, Navy, Air Force, Coast Guard?** Yes or no will do.************************* KJ

*Here we go with this old saw.* Once again, what does that have to do with anything.*

I'll say this again as I have before.* There were folks in the Navy with me that I would not let cut my grass, live next door to or date my daughter if I had one. One such person*had an accident while we were at Great Lakes going down the stairs from the second deck*on the way to the brig when the Fire Watch we were on found him going through some lockers.* But he can answer you question in the affirmative.

So how does he stack up in the equation of who's*good and who's not?*

*Man...the Dirty Dozen was on the other night...guess you missed it...*

[KJ]

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This is not where I would have expected or desired this*thread to go to when I posted it.

Out of respect for those who currently serve our country and those that have sacrificed their lives for this country and the flag that it*represents, I am requesting that we put this discussion to rest. *************************KJ

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-- Edited by KJ on Monday 6th of February 2012 04:46:21 PM

[Steve]

Amen,
Steve W.

[Codger2]

By way of a Post script to this thread, as I just recently read it.

I was in the Navy for 4 years and had a few experiences that were very exciting. I am glad I went as I grew up while I was there.

Why did I go? To serve my country? To honor the flag? No, I went for the pure adventure of it and found it! I'll never forget and always cherish my time in the Navy but my motive for going was driven by my desire for adventure, action, etc. Not patriotism.

[KJ]

I'll ask again, let it rest.

[Larry H]

When underway, we fly a US flag on the stern staff, and, when in Canada, we also fly Canadian and British Columbia flags from our anchor light pole up top.

Opinion comment follows:

Once upon a time, this land had a king. Our forefathers got tired of the treatment they received from the king, so they kicked him out.

The people needed something to replace the royal king. That replacement was our flag. It took quite a while for US citizens to start pledging allegiance to the flag, however.

Quote from Wikipedia: "The Pledge of Allegiance of the United States is an expression of loyalty to the federal flag and the republic of the United States of America, originally composed by Christian Socialist Francis Bellamy (1855-1931) in 1892 and formally adopted by Congress as the pledge in 1942.[1] The Pledge has been modified four times since its composition, with the most recent change adding the words "under God" in 1954."

The US may be the only country where the citizens pledge allegiance to a flag in lieu of royalty, and it took from its introduction in 1892 to 1942 to become the official pledge.