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09-06-2013, 10:30 AM
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Guru
City: Seattle, WA
Vessel Name: Pau Hana
Vessel Model: 1989 PT52 Overseas Yachtfisher
Join Date: Aug 2012
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I insure Sea-Battical- she's a great boat, and extremely well maintained. She's currently on the hard getting bottom paint and service work done.
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1989 52' PT Overseas yachtfisher
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09-06-2013, 10:52 AM
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#42
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Senior Member
City: Santa Fe, NM
Vessel Name: High Slack
Vessel Model: Selene 43
Join Date: Aug 2013
Posts: 148
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Great steel 1952 trawler
Hey GG -
Here's a long shot:
I spent 10 days in July aboard a 1952 58' Stuart & Fellows wood-hulled trawler. Four cabins (extra large master), three heads, big salon and galley, separate pilot house, lots and lots of deck space everywhere on multiple levels, mechanically great shape. It was an incredible boat and an incredible experience, and we got lots of compliments everywhere. Here she is:
M/V Katherine Jane - Home
She is in charter right now, and I have no idea whether the owner has any interest in a sale. But if I were in your shoes, I'd definitely try to make a deal on this one if the owner has even the slightest interest in a sale.
Cheers -
Steve
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09-06-2013, 11:03 AM
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Guru
City: San Diego
Vessel Name: Circuit Breaker
Vessel Model: 2021..22' Duffy Cuddy cabin
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 6,691
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Absolutely a remarkable boat! I wouldn't want the maintenance though.
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09-06-2013, 11:07 AM
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Senior Member
City: Santa Fe, NM
Vessel Name: High Slack
Vessel Model: Selene 43
Join Date: Aug 2013
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Of course, there's that. However, this boat is really in impeccable condition so at least there's nothing deferred on her.
And I just now realized I wrote "steel" hull; in fact she is wood. I'll go back and edit that now.
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09-06-2013, 12:14 PM
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Guru
City: Port Townsend, WA
Vessel Name: Traveler
Vessel Model: Cheoy Lee 46 LRC
Join Date: Nov 2011
Posts: 1,477
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Originally Posted by GalaxyGirl
Yes, I am planning on attending the Newport Show. Looking forward to it, and, it's just up the road from here  |
GG - If you find yourself walking by the Cruising Outpost booth (the new magazine that "replaced" Latitudes & Attitudes), stop by and say hi to my wife, Lisa O'Brien. She's the ad director for Cruising Outpost, and we were talking about you, your family and goals last night. First thing she said is, "I'd like to meet her"!
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09-06-2013, 12:27 PM
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Guru
City: Port Townsend, WA
Vessel Name: Traveler
Vessel Model: Cheoy Lee 46 LRC
Join Date: Nov 2011
Posts: 1,477
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Originally Posted by GalaxyGirl
This one we almost looked at during our search due to her design and pedigree (William Garden is my favorite designer!). But for us she was the opposite of what you're looking for as we wanted to stay under 50'. She has an interesting history and from what knowledgeable people have told me needs A LOT of work, but she's a diamond in the rough. She's also wood which is not on your list of hull materials, but is built very stoutly. Could be a gorgeous go-anywhere vessel with a refit in the $200,000 range: CLASSIC 1958 67' Trawler "Garden" by Vic Franck
This one is the best. Looks similar to another that I saw somewhere. I really like the design. Nervous about refit, but I'm going to e-mail them for more info and photos. I'll keep you posted. |
I would love it if you keep me posted on this one. Mostly so I can vicariously enjoy the research and potential purchase/refit process! We spent a year looking for our boat, and this along with one other William Garden design I just fell in love with. She's reminiscent of the Romsdahl 65 trawlers which I love as well. IIRC Tom Smothers of the Smothers Brothers (not sure how old you are or if you remember those guys...) was a previous owner. I think she has tremendous upside at what would appear to be a modest entry. Also, in the event you do end up buying her, there are a couple of yards here in Port Townsend that absolutely excel at the type of refit you would be looking at. Sure would make a great story!
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09-06-2013, 02:02 PM
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Guru
City: Santa Cruz, CA
Vessel Name: Concerto
Vessel Model: 1980 Cheoy Lee
Join Date: May 2013
Posts: 1,531
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09-06-2013, 02:26 PM
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Guru
City: Little River SC
Vessel Name: JAZ
Vessel Model: Ta Chaio/CT35
Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 716
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Originally Posted by bligh
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She's gotta like this one! Nice find.
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09-06-2013, 09:04 PM
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Guru
City: San Diego
Vessel Name: Circuit Breaker
Vessel Model: 2021..22' Duffy Cuddy cabin
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 6,691
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Originally Posted by Kawini
And I just now realized I wrote "steel" hull; in fact she is wood. I'll go back and edit that now.
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Thank you! I was really confused to see that design in "steel" in a 1952 boat. 
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09-06-2013, 09:13 PM
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Guru
City: San Diego
Vessel Name: Circuit Breaker
Vessel Model: 2021..22' Duffy Cuddy cabin
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 6,691
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Originally Posted by windmill29130
She's gotta like this one! Nice find.
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I agree! Now, we will see if the rubber meets the road. 
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09-06-2013, 09:18 PM
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Senior Member
City: USA
Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 267
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Originally Posted by Pack Mule
65' Malahide North Sea Trawler Yachtworld
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I'm staying away from wood. There was a Malahide in Turkey, that I loved and would probably own now if it were steel or glass. They are amazing seaworthy boats.
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09-06-2013, 09:27 PM
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#53
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Senior Member
City: USA
Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 267
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Originally Posted by bligh
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That's not a boat. It's a nightclub disguised as a yacht 
But seriously, it's gorgeous. I haven't seen anything like that yet. They must have put tons of money to get all that fancy neon lighting  And I don't know what kind of crazy wide angle camera was used, looks like a mansion.
Thanks for posting it, but I'm staying away from MYs. I'm looking for a raised pilothouse long range trawler type boat.
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09-06-2013, 09:27 PM
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Guru
City: Sydney
Vessel Name: Sojourn
Vessel Model: Integrity 386
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 12,916
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Originally Posted by bligh
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How will you spend the 5K Bligh?
Update: rejected as I typed.
I suspect nothing will suit, a custom build is indicated.
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2005 Integrity 386 "Sojourn"
Sydney Australia
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09-06-2013, 09:35 PM
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Senior Member
City: Winnipeg
Vessel Model: 36 Mainship
Join Date: Mar 2013
Posts: 157
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stirring up mischief
The approach of "bring it to my counter and if i like it I will pay" is problematic. I do not sell boats but I have those propositions everyday and turn them down every day. GG- you need to have a little skin in the game.
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09-07-2013, 02:59 AM
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TF Site Team
City: Ex-Brisbane, (Australia), now Bribie Island, Qld
Vessel Name: Now boatless - sold 6/2018
Vessel Model: Had a Clipper (CHB) 34
Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 9,942
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Phil Fill
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Phil, I agree, in fact that last one you linked is my idea of a real sea-going, ocean-crossing boat, for sure...
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09-07-2013, 03:05 AM
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TF Site Team
City: Ex-Brisbane, (Australia), now Bribie Island, Qld
Vessel Name: Now boatless - sold 6/2018
Vessel Model: Had a Clipper (CHB) 34
Join Date: Jun 2008
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GalaxyGirl
That's not a boat. It's a nightclub disguised as a yacht
But seriously, it's gorgeous. I haven't seen anything like that yet. They must have put tons of money to get all that fancy neon lighting And I don't know what kind of crazy wide angle camera was used, looks like a mansion.
Thanks for posting it, but I'm staying away from MYs. I'm looking for a raised pilothouse long range trawler type boat. |
Totally agree with you there GG. Way too gin-palacy...
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09-07-2013, 08:05 AM
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Senior Member
City: USA
Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 267
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Quote:
Originally Posted by brian eiland
I look at this vessel as a trawler catamaran....just a faster trawler. It has some elements of a tug boat look to it as well.
The MOST important thing it has is shallow draft. I believe you will likely limit yourself for the firat 5 years to an operating area that will include the easy coast of the USA and the Bahama Islands. Shallow draft will be important !! It will allow to to explore a much greater area. It will allow you anchor out in areas not reachable by a great many other boats. It will allow for possible much fewer mishaps with prop and shaft mishaps which can become quite expensive. just to name a few.
The twin engines widely spaced apart will making handling the vessel a breeze. The relatively small size of these engines will make for a good fuel economy, and will be relatively easy on repair bills should they become neccessary.
The potential greater speed of this vessel could also be an asset with the youger generation. I've had several older displacement speed trawler owners tell me that it is difficult to get their grandkids to come for a visit/cruise on their too-slow old boats.
I don't understand your comment about the deck area of the catamaram? For a given length the catamaran generally possesses the greater outdoor deck space than does the monohull vessel. The photos I have of this 62' cat don't do justice to that BIG aft deck area.
Notice that in this first photo there is an awning material that is rolled up along the railing ready to stretch out over that aft deck area.
Attachment 22700
That big aft deck becomes an outdoor salon and galley. A lot of the cooking and eating can be done out there, thus keeping ther interior free of cooking odors, cooking heat, and the condensation associated with cooking gases.
That big deck area is just waiting for creative applications from diving preps, to jet-ski operations, etc, etc. |
Brian, they are very nice boats. I don't care for the layout of the great room/family/galley area. Although, I have seen a couple that were layed different and would work, but then those either didn't have enough states or the price was too far north. I also like the multiple deck areas that trawlers offer. With 5 kids, I want to be sure that everyone has space to spread out. Also, and I'm sure that I will be corrected on this, but cats, don't seem as seaworthy as some other vessels. Let's say, for example, if I wanted to check out parts of Alaska in a few years. I can't see myself in a cat, in Alaska. I more envision a boat with a much deeper draft. I don't want a boat with location limitations. That being said, I do admit that I could be wrong about that. I really haven't looked into them a whole lot.
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09-07-2013, 08:30 AM
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Senior Member
City: USA
Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 267
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Phil Fill
Of all the boats that I have seen my feeling is the 66 ft Choy Lee is the best fit. Single/twin engine, long range, rounded stern, 4 or 5 staterooms, with in the budget. There are several for sale and one is in North Carolina. The concern was it did not have the range to cross an ocean. However, one of the 66 was bought the owner is taking it to Australia. Might want to go back an look at it again. 1990 66 (ft.) CHEOY LEE Wide Body Long Range Cruiser for sale in Seabrook, TX. | ID 31067
Phil, I'm not a big fan of the Cheoy Lee's. Some of them had bad leaking problems. But, there are some very nice ones out there were the leaking has been corrected or maybe never did leak. The "Sopresser", that sold a few months ago is one. I really want a raised pilothouse. This has limited my choices quite a bit, but I am going to hang in their a while longer and try and get one. The boat that I wanted/lost had a raised pilothouse. I loved it on the screen, but when I saw it person, I knew that I would have to have a raised pilothouse. The view is monumentally different. I am a newbee, as we all know  , so I think the view will be a great help with the learning. Also, when the pilothouse is raised, it often frees up space below for other stuff, without increasing length.
The Pacific Marine 65 ft is my wifes favorit. But it does not quite meets your range requiment . 2000 Pacific Mariner Motor Yacht Power Boat For Sale - www.yachtworld.com If you buy one please do not tell my wife!
This boat is way north of the budget, and, I probably haven't seen it because, I believe that is a planning hull??? I skip all boats with planning hulls.
The Northern Marine is my favoite but a little out of price range. There are several for sale. 2004 Northern Marine Pilothouse LRC "RAVEN" Power Boat For Sale - www.yachtworld.com
Anyway, some examples of boat you should be looking at.
This boat would work, but the price. If I had a million to spend, I probably wouldn't have needed to ask for help from you guys. I would have bought that Nordy in Florida for 750
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You definitely have the right idea, and probably know what I need better than many. Thanks for looking. Please let me know if you spot anything else
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09-07-2013, 08:34 AM
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Senior Member
City: USA
Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 267
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Moonfish
GG - If you find yourself walking by the Cruising Outpost booth (the new magazine that "replaced" Latitudes & Attitudes), stop by and say hi to my wife, Lisa O'Brien. She's the ad director for Cruising Outpost, and we were talking about you, your family and goals last night. First thing she said is, "I'd like to meet her"!
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Darren,
I will be sure to stop by and say Hi to her.
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