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08-17-2018, 12:22 PM
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Veteran Member
City: Essex, CT
Vessel Name: Neon Moon
Vessel Model: Ocean Alexander 480 Classico
Join Date: Jul 2015
Posts: 36
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Exploring upgrade
We have a 48 Ocean Alexander Classico and are looking at some of the Pilothouse models in the 52-62' range. The Pilothouses seem to be better set-up for live aboard and ease of use. While We are mostly on the bridge underway, we really like having a settee/table in the pilothouse as a work area, separate form the salon. Ultimately, we want to do the loop and prefer the lower profile of these styles.
Between Offshore, Marlowe, Fleming, Selene, Alaskan, etc... which seem to have the better values? What are the "buyer beware" known issues? Would really like to hear from people with good/bad first-hand experiences.
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08-18-2018, 09:27 AM
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Guru
City: Windmill Harbour, Hilton Head Island, SC
Vessel Name: River Girl
Vessel Model: 2004 DeFever 49 RPH
Join Date: Sep 2016
Posts: 525
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I'm looking similar size and style. The OA 51 Classico PH's we looked at seem to have serious Gelkote crazing issues. The DeFever 49' RPH's have soft Gelkote and some weird design issues covering wood door/window frames with thick Gelkote which can be expensive to repair when it cracks (and it will). The earlier Selenes have balsa cored decks and most we looked at were already wet. At the least the POCTA built DeFevers have Divinylcell cored decks, not balsa cored. Can't comment on the others.
Good luck!
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08-18-2018, 10:04 AM
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Veteran Member
City: Essex, CT
Vessel Name: Neon Moon
Vessel Model: Ocean Alexander 480 Classico
Join Date: Jul 2015
Posts: 36
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Flatswing
I'm looking similar size and style. The OA 51 Classico PH's we looked at seem to have serious Gelkote crazing issues. The DeFever 49' RPH's have soft Gelkote and some weird design issues covering wood door/window frames with thick Gelkote which can be expensive to repair when it cracks (and it will). The earlier Selenes have balsa cored decks and most we looked at were already wet. At the least the POCTA built DeFevers have Divinylcell cored decks, not balsa cored. Can't comment on the others.
Good luck!
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This is very informative, Thank you.
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08-18-2018, 05:55 PM
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Guru
City: North Carolina for now
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 6,348
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We went through a phase during the initial figuring-out-what-might-work / dreaming segment where we looked at a lot of these pilothouse type boats... OA's, Flemings, Offshore, GB Aleutian and a few others. We really liked the Offshore and knew happy owners. In fact for awhile I had an Offshore 62 as the screensaver on my computer at work. But after doing a lot more cruising via charter, we ruled out pilot house boats altogether for personal ergonomic reasons. Reason #1 is that I very much like being able to get a 360 degree view without taking my hands off the helm. Reason #2 was that we did not want any steps between us and any part of the exterior decks.
I really like the aforementioned brands, but I was so happy we got a boat that gave us the ergonomics that were right for us.
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08-18-2018, 06:13 PM
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Veteran Member
City: Essex, CT
Vessel Name: Neon Moon
Vessel Model: Ocean Alexander 480 Classico
Join Date: Jul 2015
Posts: 36
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Caltexflanc: What did you end up with?
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08-18-2018, 07:35 PM
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Guru
City: Fort Myers, FL... Summers in the Great Lakes
Vessel Name: Slow Hand
Vessel Model: Cherubini Independence 45
Join Date: Dec 2010
Posts: 12,448
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Just curious what your air draft limit is? I did the loop last year and was able to limbo under 15'. With the vessels and size range you listed, I'm assuming you're not taking the 15' 6" route. Wondering if they clear 19'.
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