exciting !!!! (intro, boat shopping)

[Nomad Willy]

Marin I don't see any sailboat in the Allweather at all. Not a trace.

[Marin]

Originally Posted by manyboats

Marin I don't see any sailboat in the Allweather at all. Not a trace.

Really? Judging by the drawing on the Allweather website the thing looks almost exactly like a double-ended North Sea-type sailing trawler. Seen a lot of them in the UK over the years. Many of them have a centerboard that can be lowered if needed. And they tend to be larger than the little Allweather. But the first time I saw an Allweather in Friday Harbor it immediately reminded both me and Carey of the sailboat hull.

[JD]

Originally Posted by Marin

Really? Judging by the drawing on the Allweather website the thing looks almost exactly like a double-ended North Sea-type sailing trawler. Seen a lot of them in the UK over the years. Many of them have a centerboard that can be lowered if needed. And they tend to be larger than the little Allweather. But the first time I saw an Allweather in Friday Harbor it immediately reminded both me and Carey of the sailboat hull.

I thought it looked like a double ender shoal draft myself. Just need a stick.

[Lucy 11]

I spoke with Homer Hughes yesterday -- currently living in Skagit County --- he's majorly not well and not building any more boats ...... the only allweather available that I can find is Homers personal boat which I'd love to have BUT he's asking $79,900 for it(has a trailer!!) ....... I've asked my wifeand she said NO!!! Any suggestions????.....However Homer has given me a number of his friend who has an Albin he'd be willing to part with.... any inside info on Albins-- some say they are quite underpowered (7knots against a 7 knot current etc.)------ this is half the price so maybe I'll have more luck!!!!!!! stay dry........ps out yesterday training with our RCM-SAR station --- 5'rollers recovering our Oscar(Chucky) from water -- shouldn't have had Sunday brunch!!!! ------- Everyone got wet..... Fun.... jp

[Nomad Willy]

$$$80,000!!!!!!!!!!!???????

[Lucy 11]

lots of pop bottles!!! jp

[Conrad]

Originally Posted by Lucy 11

I spoke with Homer Hughes yesterday -- currently living in Skagit County --- he's majorly not well and not building any more boats ...... the only allweather available that I can find is Homers personal boat which I'd love to have BUT he's asking $79,900 for it(has a trailer!!) ....... I've asked my wifeand she said NO!!! Any suggestions????.....However Homer has given me a number of his friend who has an Albin he'd be willing to part with.... any inside info on Albins-- some say they are quite underpowered (7knots against a 7 knot current etc.)------ this is half the price so maybe I'll have more luck!!!!!!! stay dry........ps out yesterday training with our RCM-SAR station --- 5'rollers recovering our Oscar(Chucky) from water -- shouldn't have had Sunday brunch!!!! ------- Everyone got wet..... Fun.... jp

The speed depends on the Albin and the engine.
The early Albins had a pure displacement hull and usually came with 25 hp 2 cylinder Volvos.
Later models had a slight modification to the hull which kept the stern from squatting and equipped with the 36 hp 3 cylinder Volvo could run in the 8 - 9 knot range although not very happily.

I've owned both, and the later model would be my preference. I believe, but am not sure, that if it is a deluxe then it has the hull mod. All I can say for sure is that our slower hull was a 1972 and our faster one was a 1976.

The later models also have somewhat better storage, such as shelving in the aft cabin.

Many have been repowered, often with Yanmars, which is a sweet engine. But only the hull mod will give you that little bit of extra speed unless you like to dig a big hole in the water.

[MurrayM]

A seller can ask whatever they want, but that's overly optimistic considering how low boats are going for these days. I'd counter with less than half of that.

A 1,500 mile range sure does add to the appeal...

[Nomad Willy]

Murray,
Not even that. I'd sell my Willard for 40K and it's twice the boat the AllWeather is.

Conrad,
Not even 1% disrespect but I had an early Albin 25 and I'd call it a semi-disp boat. I had a 34hp Yanmar in it and cruised it at 8.5 knots at 2750rpm. Six knots is hull speed for them and at WOT it could do 10.5 knots. A full disp boat couldn't do that. The bow ran a bit high but I had good visibility fwd at 8.5 knots but not faster than that. I just re-read your post and it's not much different than I would say. The later hull was less efficient and tended to plow along level but I think they overdid it on the design modification. If they only did 50% of the modification it probably would have been perfect. In any event they are one of the best boats ever built. I preferred the older hull but the newer is considerably more stable as the stern is wider and flatter.

Do you ever go to the Albineer events? We've been away but we're still members and plan to go to the AGM dinner/meeting. Any chance we'll see you ther'e Conrad?

[BelfastCruiser]

If you're in the PNW and want an inexpensive full displacement small trawler - look for an old YAR or WINDY - stable, slow rides

[Island Cessna]

There are 2 Albin 25's local to you listed on the Albineers site. Bill

[Lucy 11]

I'm drawn to the Albins BUT I like to drag a line through the water and I'm a little concerned how convenient that would be with the aft cabin ... anyone fished from one of these great little boats ??????

[CPseudonym]

Originally Posted by manyboats

$$$80,000!!!!!!!!!!!???????

But Eric. It does come with a trailer

[Conrad]

Originally Posted by manyboats

Murray,
Not even that. I'd sell my Willard for 40K and it's twice the boat the AllWeather is.

Conrad,
Not even 1% disrespect but I had an early Albin 25 and I'd call it a semi-disp boat. I had a 34hp Yanmar in it and cruised it at 8.5 knots at 2750rpm. Six knots is hull speed for them and at WOT it could do 10.5 knots. A full disp boat couldn't do that. The bow ran a bit high but I had good visibility fwd at 8.5 knots but not faster than that. I just re-read your post and it's not much different than I would say. The later hull was less efficient and tended to plow along level but I think they overdid it on the design modification. If they only did 50% of the modification it probably would have been perfect. In any event they are one of the best boats ever built. I preferred the older hull but the newer is considerably more stable as the stern is wider and flatter.

Do you ever go to the Albineer events? We've been away but we're still members and plan to go to the AGM dinner/meeting. Any chance we'll see you ther'e Conrad?

You're absolutely right Eric; I should have said something like it was not as refined a semi displacement as the later models, although maybe it was, from your experience.

Our 1972 model with a 27 HP Yanmar would do 6.5 knots @ 2800 RPM and 7.0 knots at 3400 RPM. Our 1976 with a 36 HP Volvo would do 8 -9 knots flat out ( I forget the RPM) with the bow well up.

I recall chatting with someone a while back who put a 40 - 44 HP diesel in their Albin, don't know which hull, and as I recall they still were only getting about 7.5 knots or so.

I completely agree though, that they were an incredibly well designed and built little pocket cruiser.

Unfortunately I won't be attending the AGM meeting Eric - it would be nice to meet in person.

[Lucy 11]

Still experiencing sticker shock ???????? Albins are in the low 20's which makes them very appealing...................................

[Nomad Willy]

Lucky,
Being inexpensive is the least of your reasons to purchase an Albin 25.

[Lucy 11]

You are absolutely correct Eric ----------- "tis a factor BUT not as important as the quality of the craft ---- it being absolutely a perfect trailerable boat which suits my needs AND I am drawn to the social factor of being involved with a small but active group of Albin owners ........ there are two other Penderites who own Albins and I'm looking forward to cruising the Golf Islands(and perhaps beyond) with like minded captains ,,,,, on another site there is a discussion re. following a dream and making it happen ,,, I'm excited about the possibilities of enjoying a great boat with others ,,,, at a $$$$$$ I can afford ......... I'm heading cross the border next Wednesday for a "sea trial" and a close look at the Albin ......... I'll report back re. my findings ......... stand by..... john

[Nomad Willy]

Good.
Try to find an Albin that has been repowered. Don't want one of those old sea water cooled Volvo's.
Good hunting
Eric

[Lucy 11]

Went down to Le Conner(or is it La) yesterday and looked at John's Albin 25........... I was a little disappointed with the cosmetics(which can be easily improved upon) but was/am excited about the "Basic Boat"..... It has been completely refitted with a Volvo-Penta MD40 with 210 hours -- new guages/new drive train/new bottom paint/ new canvas/recently re-set windows/new cushions/a "coleman stove" ........ electronics need an upgrade-------- 2 new 1000 amp. batteries --- shorelander trailer with surge brakes(never been in the water-- he's had the boat lifted in).......... O.K. how much do you think an Albin as described would sell for ...... I know regional differences etc. But I'd like your opinions ........... given the factors I've already mentioned(Social/trailerability/cost/reliability/spaciousness(for a 25footer)........................ I'm "on the cusp"----- my wife even seems interested!!!!!! standing by john

[Nomad Willy]

I sold mine for $18K w recent Yanmar 34hp, C+ to B- cosmetics, no trailer but lots of new gearhead stuff. A new dinghy w home made davits. Took her to Alaska in 03. A wonderful trip.

They may be worth more now rather than less. I'll be in LaConner tomorrow or Sat. You could tell me what float it's on and I could go have a peek at it. Is a MD40 a new engine?