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07-21-2014, 03:51 AM
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Guru
City: Seattle
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 2,908
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Equipment You Hate Most
What piece of equipment do you hate the most on your boat or which is the most unreliable?
For me it is my pressure water pump (non self-priming) which is a horrible nightmare. Closely followed by the grey water sump, the screen of which is always getting clogged by hair.
Both need constant attention. Does anyone have any good solutions or proven equipment for these?
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07-21-2014, 06:02 AM
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City: Ft Pierce
Vessel Name: Sold
Vessel Model: Was an Albin/PSN 40
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 26,603
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Buy a pressure pump that's self priming (any of the marine 12V water pumps, even if not from a marine dealer like an RV outfit to save a few bucks).
Use a better screen at the shower/tub and a larger sump with larger screen that doesn't clog as fast or some sort of easy access/quick clean prefilter for the gray water.
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07-21-2014, 06:03 AM
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City: North Charleston, SC
Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 4,774
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I just have a standard Jabsco pump on my potable water system. It's mounted below the normal level of the water in the tanks so it doesn't need to be self priming. I went through a couple until I installed an accumulator tank. For the grey water, I'm assuming a shower sump so put a screen on the drain in the shower to catch the hair before it gets into the piping.
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07-21-2014, 07:00 AM
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City: North Carolina for now
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 6,348
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Love my fresh water pumps. Hate our two computers (MacBook Pro, iMac).
Makobuildrs, it sounds like your system my not be plumbed correctly. Have you tried putting a check valve between the pump and the tank? If you have one, have you tested it? Water flowing back into the tank is the #1 cause of bad priming, # 2 probably being air locks up stream of the pump.
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George
"There's the Right Way, the Wrong Way, and what some guy says he's gotten away with"
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07-21-2014, 07:07 AM
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Guru
City: Cape May, NJ
Vessel Name: Irish Lady
Vessel Model: Monk 36
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 4,668
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Havent owned her long, but we had both Jabsco 370 series heads fail in one weekend the same way. Bad seal between inlet and output pump impellers so the nasty stuff just recirculates. I rebuilt both and now carry 2 spare rebuild kits. Yes, the discharge lines and holding tank vent are clear.
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Archie
Irish Lady
1984 Monk 36 Hull #46
Currently in Cape May, NJ
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07-21-2014, 07:14 AM
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TF Site Team
City: Paris,TN
Vessel Name: Slo-Poke
Vessel Model: Jorgensen custom 44
Join Date: Jan 2013
Posts: 3,748
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My roof top air and my 110volt frig. We want to replace with real marine air and marine frig .Has anyone tried the drawer type marine frig . The area I have is a good size for one .
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07-21-2014, 08:06 AM
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Moderator Emeritus
City: Chicago, IL
Vessel Name: Bay Pelican
Vessel Model: Krogen 42
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 2,993
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Watermaker. I have an automatic 12 volt watermaker. Everything is run off a control panel. Push the button, select how long it will run and it does. When it is working. Almost all problems in 10 years have been to do with the sensors that determine when the product water is good, the mechanical system to divert from waste to the tanks, pressure sensors etc. Wish I had bought a straight manual one, with manual testing and manual diversion from waste to tanks.
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Marty
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07-21-2014, 08:32 AM
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Guru
City: Beaverton, Ontario
Vessel Name: Looking Glass
Vessel Model: Carver 370 Voyager
Join Date: Nov 2012
Posts: 1,240
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My old chest type frig is original to the boat, 1981, is only 12 volt, has little insulation and draws down the batteries in just a few hours when on the hook. On top of which my wife has to do hand stands to reach the bottom. Will likely take out the cooktop oven combo and replace with a straight cooktop and a 12/120v fridge below. Never have used the oven anyway.
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Allan
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07-21-2014, 09:25 AM
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City: Tri Cities, WA
Join Date: Nov 2012
Posts: 4,406
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I hate every piece of machinery that requires me to wiggle/drag/pull my large frame (6'1", 230#) into a space made for a midget, to make some minor adjustment to the whatchamacallit.
My wife and I changed the impellers on both Cats and she changed the impeller on the Westerbeke genset by herself. I could have done that one but it would have taken me 10 minutes to get my butt in there, ten minutes to change it, and another 10 to wiggle my butt out of the tight area.
She was in, changed it and back out in about 15 minutes.
Ya gotta love an Admiral that is willing to get her hands dirty.
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Mike and Tina
1981 Boston Whaler 13'
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07-21-2014, 10:16 AM
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Senior Member
City: Cruising Florida and Bahamas
Vessel Name: TBD
Vessel Model: Tiara 53 Fly
Join Date: Jun 2014
Posts: 215
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GFC
Ya gotta love an Admiral that is willing to get her hands dirty.
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How do you get one of these? My port side sea water pump on the CAT needs replacement and my 6' 4" 200# frame won't get in there. Local mechanic thinks he has a guy small enough. But hmmmm, the admiral. NOT!
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07-21-2014, 11:47 AM
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Senior Member
City: Dayton, OH
Join Date: Apr 2013
Posts: 206
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sum escape
How do you get one of these? My port side sea water pump on the CAT needs replacement and my 6' 4" 200# frame won't get in there. Local mechanic thinks he has a guy small enough. But hmmmm, the admiral. NOT!
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With all the genetic manipulation and dolly the sheep you'd think they would create a spider monkey that can learn mechanical principles like 'righty tighty/lefty loosey' and how to use a torque wrench.. But NOOoooo. 
Back in the Air Force, hanging down head first into a corner of the aft cockpit trying to do maintenance I wished we had one of these gremlin/mechanics to help out.
The need is there, come on academia, fix this!
Then again, the engineers at McDonnell Douglas could have considered our plight during the design process, but engineers don't have to actually fix the things.
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07-21-2014, 12:07 PM
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Senior Member
City: North Kingstown, RI
Vessel Model: Mainship 34 III
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 179
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My favorite answer when asking how to fix something that requires a 1/2 size version of me is "All you have to is...."
Argh!
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07-21-2014, 12:34 PM
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Guru
City: Hotel, CA
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 8,323
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Quote:
Originally Posted by makobuilders
What piece of equipment do you hate the most on your boat or which is the most unreliable?
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Anything with an electric circuit.
Does Nordhavn make a pirogue that sleeps 2?
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Craig
It's easier to fool people than to convince them that they've been fooled - Mark Twain
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07-21-2014, 12:58 PM
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Guru
City: South FL
Vessel Name: Oliver
Vessel Model: Nordhavn 47 Hull# 12
Join Date: Apr 2013
Posts: 3,607
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So far NOTHING(Knock on wood), so we're tickled to death.
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Thanks, Oliver
M/V Oliver
Nordhavn 47 Hull #12
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07-21-2014, 01:24 PM
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TF Site Team
City: California Delta
Vessel Name: FlyWright
Vessel Model: 1977 Marshall Californian 34 LRC
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 13,709
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All the equipment I hated most has been removed or replaced. Things like obsolete stereo, CB, inop hailer, weak alternator, inadequate battery charger, weak washdown pump, old intercom, leaking water heater, inadequate powerwinch/no windlass, inefficient and noisy toilet, inefficient lighting, and obsolete TV.
Now I guess all I can do is relax and enjoy the boat!
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07-21-2014, 04:18 PM
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Guru
City: Fort Pierce
Vessel Name: Florita Ann
Vessel Model: 1982 Present
Join Date: May 2014
Posts: 1,935
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FlyWright
All the equipment I hated most has been removed or replaced. Things like obsolete stereo, CB, inop hailer, weak alternator, inadequate battery charger, weak washdown pump, old intercom, leaking water heater, inadequate powerwinch/no windlass, inefficient and noisy toilet, inefficient lighting, and obsolete TV.
Now I guess all I can do is relax and enjoy the boat!
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do you also do standup...??? As we speak the next shoe is about to drop. 
As for me, vocally outlined on this forum, March air conditioner raw water pumps. Next I suppose is the nasty raritan crap treatment units.
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07-21-2014, 04:25 PM
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Guru
City: Fort Pierce
Vessel Name: Florita Ann
Vessel Model: 1982 Present
Join Date: May 2014
Posts: 1,935
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Pack Mule
My roof top air and my 110volt frig. We want to replace with real marine air and marine frig .Has anyone tried the drawer type marine frig . The area I have is a good size for one .
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The frig, I fully understand but why the air conditioner? Marine air is a PIA and that being said...I have a HUGE area under my fly bridge shield and have been thinking of putting a RV roof unit in there with forced air ventilation. What are your issues with the RV unit?
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07-21-2014, 04:38 PM
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Guru
City: Vallejo, California
Vessel Name: Mahalo Moi
Vessel Model: 1986 Grand Banks 42 Classic
Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 2,077
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My frig constantly runs out of beer.
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Ray
"Mahalo Moi"
1986 GB-42 Classic
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07-21-2014, 04:50 PM
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Guru
City: Hailing Port: Charleston, SC
Vessel Name: Moonstruck
Vessel Model: Sabre 42 Hardtop Express
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 8,276
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Giggitoni
My frig constantly runs out of beer.
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That's easy. Get a better class of friends.
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07-21-2014, 04:52 PM
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Guru
City: Vallejo, California
Vessel Name: Mahalo Moi
Vessel Model: 1986 Grand Banks 42 Classic
Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 2,077
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Did 'ya hear that, Al?
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Ray
"Mahalo Moi"
1986 GB-42 Classic
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