Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
 
Old 02-28-2021, 10:37 AM   #1
Member
 
Bonedoc's Avatar
 
City: Huntington
Vessel Model: Ellis 28
Join Date: Nov 2020
Posts: 12
Engine throttle control lever issue

My Downeaster has an older double control setup for a single diesel. The unit is worn and needs replacement. I plan to change to a single lever engine control as my preference.

The new single Teleflex unit can be set up to "pull" or "push' the control cables depending on your setup. Okay, fine.

Upon opening up my original Morse controls I find the gear cable to be a "push" setup, and my throttle cable to be a "pull" setup. However, the
new single lever Teleflex I unpackaged today has the option of either BOTH push or BOTH pull.

So what to do?
1. Go back to dual lever control box?(Not my preference)
2. Order a single lever action that has more cable hook up options? (if they make such a thing)
3. Re-route the transmission cable from a push to a pull orientation?
4. Something else?
Attached Thumbnails
6FE3D1AB-F96A-4724-8481-E4C9F1540B65.jpg  
Attached Images
 
__________________
Advertisement

Bonedoc is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-28-2021, 11:10 AM   #2
Guru
 
O C Diver's Avatar
 
City: Fort Myers, FL... Summers in Crisfield, MD
Vessel Name: Slow Hand
Vessel Model: Cherubini Independence 45
Join Date: Dec 2010
Posts: 10,122
Return it and buy a Kobelt. Much better quality and can be configured as you need it.

Ted
__________________

__________________
Blog: mvslowhand.com
I'm tired of fast moves, I've got a slow groove, on my mind.....
I want to spend some time, Not come and go in a heated rush.....
"Slow Hand" by The Pointer Sisters
O C Diver is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-28-2021, 11:55 AM   #3
Guru
 
Soo-Valley's Avatar
 
City: Gulf Islands
Vessel Name: Soo Valley
Vessel Model: Grand Banks 36
Join Date: Jul 2019
Posts: 2,187
Have you checked at the other ends of the cable to see if one can be changed for direction. This may involve longer cable, new mount point etc.
Then compare the cost of doing that to getting one that can be adjusted to work with your system.
__________________
SteveK AKA Soo Valley
You only need one working engine.
That is why I have two.
Soo-Valley is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-28-2021, 12:04 PM   #4
Guru
 
Datenight's Avatar
 
City: Groton, CT
Vessel Name: Datenight
Vessel Model: North Pacific 45
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 778
Bonedoc,

I have a pair of Kobalt used single lever dual controls. I would be willing to sell one or both if you are interested.

Rob
Attached Thumbnails
IMG_0467.jpg   IMG_0468.jpg   IMG_0469.jpg  
__________________
North Pacific 45
Datenight is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 02-28-2021, 12:14 PM   #5
Member
 
Bonedoc's Avatar
 
City: Huntington
Vessel Model: Ellis 28
Join Date: Nov 2020
Posts: 12
I will keep that in mind- prior to buying another I have to make sure that it is feasible without changing the cable arrangement for the Kobelt as well.

(My transmission cable pushes and my throttle cable pulls)
Bonedoc is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-28-2021, 12:33 PM   #6
Senior Member
 
Solly's Avatar
 
City: Solomons MD.
Vessel Name: Sun Runner
Vessel Model: 1985 Mainship 34 Trawler MK III
Join Date: Mar 2018
Posts: 343
The single lever control should be able to be setup however you need it. Looking at the Morse MT 3 directions you flip the shift plate over inside the control to change the push-pull.
Solly is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-28-2021, 12:40 PM   #7
Member
 
Bonedoc's Avatar
 
City: Huntington
Vessel Model: Ellis 28
Join Date: Nov 2020
Posts: 12
Solly- yes this can be done on this Teleflex also- but either both cable are push or both are pull- cannot separate for each as far as I can see.
Bonedoc is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-01-2021, 07:44 AM   #8
FF
Guru
 
FF's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 21,776
Investigate the much heavier duty type 43 cables if a push is required .
Teleflex Morse Type 43 S Heavy Duty Shift and Throttle Cable ...

www.ebay.com › ... › Boat Parts › Controls & Steering


Teleflex Morse Type 43 S Heavy Duty Shift and Throttle Cable 65885 003 36 36 FT
FF is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-01-2021, 08:24 AM   #9
Guru
 
OldDan1943's Avatar
 
City: Aventura FL
Vessel Name: Kinja
Vessel Model: American Tug 34 #116
Join Date: Oct 2017
Posts: 7,124
I had a dual engine control on my N46, main and get home.
I have a single lever electronic on my AT34. I miss my dual engine control.
I guess it is just a personal preference.
__________________
The meek will inherit the earth but, the brave will inherit the seas.
OldDan1943 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-02-2021, 09:57 AM   #10
Member
 
Bonedoc's Avatar
 
City: Huntington
Vessel Model: Ellis 28
Join Date: Nov 2020
Posts: 12
An update- the unit CAN be setup to do cable push or pull separately. The issue is the supplied directions are horrendous! After speaking with technical service at Seastar- what they ASSUME you will figure out from esoteric diagrams is beyond belief.

Anyway I plan to tackle this in the near future and I will post a step by step as I go

Thanks for all the help so far.
Bonedoc is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-02-2021, 10:03 AM   #11
Guru
 
Pete Meisinger's Avatar
 
City: Oconto, WI
Vessel Name: Best Alternative
Vessel Model: 36 Albin Aft Cabin
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 1,939
I love the double handle controls for my single engine.

I guess single handle might be easier or simpler, maybe even safer but to each his own.

pete
Pete Meisinger is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-02-2021, 10:23 AM   #12
Member
 
Bonedoc's Avatar
 
City: Huntington
Vessel Model: Ellis 28
Join Date: Nov 2020
Posts: 12
I like them too- gives a nice nautical look as well.
However- I have 50 years of muscle memory with a single control for one thing. Secondly my younger adult children ages 30ish will be using boat and also were brought up on single lever controls. Looking to keep my Awlgrip looking good avoiding crash docking via kids!
__________________

Bonedoc is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off



» Trawler Port Captains
Port Captains are TF volunteers who can serve as local guides or assist with local arrangements and information. Search below to locate Port Captains near your destination. To learn more about this program read here: TF Port Captain Program





All times are GMT -5. The time now is 09:00 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 4
Copyright ©2000 - 2021, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0
Copyright 2006 - 2012
×