Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
 
Old 01-03-2018, 08:42 PM   #61
Guru
 
Seevee's Avatar
 
City: st pete
Country: usa
Vessel Model: 400 Mainship
Join Date: Sep 2016
Posts: 2,273
Quote:
Originally Posted by menzies View Post
amp/s/www.cnet.com/google-amp/news/trump-signs-bill-reinstating-required-drone-registration/
Menzies,

That's fine, but I'll wait til the dust settles. It ain't over, yet. Registration does no good for anyone except the govt. It will be challenged.
__________________
Advertisement

__________________
Seevee
Seevee is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-03-2018, 09:17 PM   #62
TF Site Team
 
FlyWright's Avatar
 
City: California Delta and SF Bay
Country: Sacramento, CA, USA (boat in Vallejo)
Vessel Name: FlyWright
Vessel Model: Marshall Californian 34 LRC
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 12,677
If you've got a drone locked for being unregistered, it's good for you.
__________________

__________________
My boat is my ark. It's my mobile treehouse and my floating fishing cabin. It's my retreat and my respite. Everyday I thank God I have a boat! -Al

@DeltaBridges - 25 Delta Bridges in 25 Days
FlyWright is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-03-2018, 10:48 PM   #63
Guru
 
Seevee's Avatar
 
City: st pete
Country: usa
Vessel Model: 400 Mainship
Join Date: Sep 2016
Posts: 2,273
Quote:
Originally Posted by FlyWright View Post
If you've got a drone locked for being unregistered, it's good for you.

What's a "drone locked"?

Never heard of that.
__________________
Seevee
Seevee is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-04-2018, 12:31 AM   #64
Guru
 
Arthurc's Avatar
 
City: Seattle
Country: USA
Vessel Name: Sea Bear
Vessel Model: Kadey-Krogen 54
Join Date: Sep 2016
Posts: 574
Well this whole thread escalated quickly

Mavic Pro arrives tomorrow, found some water landing options on eBay Iíll try out as well. Have a few months to practice on dry land... and yes, Iíll register it, and no I wont spy on you.... you are not that interesting anyways

AC
Arthurc is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-04-2018, 02:00 AM   #65
Guru
 
City: Anacortes
Country: USA
Join Date: Nov 2012
Posts: 813
Yup, made me look too. Just went in. Anyhow, I do everything I can to fly my mavic without being noticed or a nuisance. I actually think the new propellers have made a significant difference. Once I'm over 100 feet in the air, people really don't notice and unless really windy, you never hear it. I find drones to be best unseen.

I just flew over my parents place on Mt. Hood. As many years as we have been up there, I've never been able to visualize the valley and hillsides in the same way. Over the water, it's always another great perspective. The drone has made me much more interested in photography in general, now I'm shooting more stills at wide angle with a new Fuji camera. It's been a lot of fun. I need to learn to do more editing in final cut for view, but more time spent overhauling my wordpress blog to host better pictures and vids, seems never ending. Fun though. Wish I was better/quicker at maintaining those things. It's as much work as a job!
ghost is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-04-2018, 02:12 AM   #66
Guru
 
Simi 60's Avatar
 
City: Queensland
Country: Australia
Vessel Model: Milkraft 60 converted timber trawler
Join Date: Jul 2016
Posts: 2,422
Quote:
Originally Posted by Fletcher500 View Post
I find it interesting that with everything going in the world at this moment in time, that middle/older age men are stressing over a Drone catching them in their underwear while they are shaving with their shirts off. There will always be people on the fringe of any hobby that do dumb stuff.
As a full time liveaboard on the hook out here is my world - I try not to follow the goings on of the dirt dwellers or things I have no control over.

Its not necesarilly me I was concerned about
Give me your address and I'll send someone over with a camera and look at your wife and children through the bedroom/bathroom windows, who knows what state of undress they'll be in or what website they'll end up on.
But hey, nothing to worry about right?
Simi 60 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-04-2018, 06:50 AM   #67
Guru
 
menzies's Avatar
 
City: Jacksonville
Country: USA
Vessel Name: SONAS
Vessel Model: Grand Alaskan 53
Join Date: May 2014
Posts: 5,288
Quote:
Originally Posted by Simi 60 View Post
As a full time liveaboard on the hook out here is my world - I try not to follow the goings on of the dirt dwellers or things I have no control over.

Its not necesarilly me I was concerned about
Give me your address and I'll send someone over with a camera and look at your wife and children through the bedroom/bathroom windows, who knows what state of undress they'll be in or what website they'll end up on.
But hey, nothing to worry about right?
Good grief. I would strongly advise both your wife and daughter to either close the drapes or be in an appropriate state of dress if they can be seen through a window.

Maybe that is just common sense though.
menzies is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 01-04-2018, 06:59 AM   #68
Guru
 
psneeld's Avatar
 
City: AICW
Country: USA
Vessel Name: Freedom
Vessel Model: Albin 40
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 20,765
When anchored out, I dont mind a drone circling my boat at a few hunred feet to get a few "public" looks and pics, but when it starts "staring at my vessel" close up or peering in windows, all bets are off for the life expectancy of that drone.

Its like being at a marina and the non boaters that lean over to your boat and start peering in windows. I ask them to move along as they wouldnt want me doing it at their house. That is just etiquette they dont understand and need to he educated on.

Sure I have drapes and blinds, but there are always some angles you dont expect snoopers to be able to see into unless you are under surveillance.

Are drones like binocs and telescopes, sure, but you have to know creeps will use them incorrectly, no different with drones.
psneeld is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-04-2018, 12:00 PM   #69
Guru
 
Alaskan Sea-Duction's Avatar
 
City: Inside Passage Summer/Columbia River Winter
Country: USA
Vessel Name: Alaskan Sea-Duction
Vessel Model: 1988 M/Y Camargue YachtFisher
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 5,315
Quote:
Originally Posted by psneeld View Post
When anchored out, I dont mind a drone circling my boat at a few hunred feet to get a few "public" looks and pics, but when it starts "staring at my vessel" close up or peering in windows, all bets are off for the life expectancy of that drone.

Its like being at a marina and the non boaters that lean over to your boat and start peering in windows. I ask them to move along as they wouldnt want me doing it at their house. That is just etiquette they dont understand and need to he educated on.

Sure I have drapes and blinds, but there are always some angles you dont expect snoopers to be able to see into unless you are under surveillance.

Are drones like binocs and telescopes, sure, but you have to know creeps will use them incorrectly, no different with drones.
Good Post.......
Alaskan Sea-Duction is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 01-04-2018, 12:06 PM   #70
Senior Member
 
tozz's Avatar
 
City: Seattle
Country: USA
Vessel Name: Conundrum
Vessel Model: Nordlund 63' Pilothouse
Join Date: Feb 2017
Posts: 169
Quote:
Originally Posted by bligh View Post
We have both a mavic pro and a phantom 3. I would recommend both of them depending on your needs and budget.


So if money is not a concern would you recommend the mavic pro over the phantom ?
tozz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-04-2018, 01:26 PM   #71
Guru
 
Seevee's Avatar
 
City: st pete
Country: usa
Vessel Model: 400 Mainship
Join Date: Sep 2016
Posts: 2,273
Quote:
Originally Posted by ghost View Post
Yup, made me look too. Just went in. Anyhow, I do everything I can to fly my mavic without being noticed or a nuisance. I actually think the new propellers have made a significant difference. Once I'm over 100 feet in the air, people really don't notice and unless really windy, you never hear it. I find drones to be best unseen.

I just flew over my parents place on Mt. Hood. As many years as we have been up there, I've never been able to visualize the valley and hillsides in the same way. Over the water, it's always another great perspective. The drone has made me much more interested in photography in general, now I'm shooting more stills at wide angle with a new Fuji camera. It's been a lot of fun. I need to learn to do more editing in final cut for view, but more time spent overhauling my wordpress blog to host better pictures and vids, seems never ending. Fun though. Wish I was better/quicker at maintaining those things. It's as much work as a job!
Ghost,

What new props make it quieter? Thx.

Phantom Advanced
__________________
Seevee
Seevee is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-04-2018, 01:44 PM   #72
Guru
 
jleonard's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 3,726
Carbon fiber props are supposed to be quieter.
I hope I never get paranoid enough to think that anyone with a camera or a new hobby is spying on me.
I also hope I can resist the urge to shoot down an FAA registered aircraft.
__________________
Jay Leonard
Attitude Adjustment
40 Albin
Mystic,Ct. /New Port Richey,Fl
jleonard is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-04-2018, 02:06 PM   #73
Guru
 
Simi 60's Avatar
 
City: Queensland
Country: Australia
Vessel Model: Milkraft 60 converted timber trawler
Join Date: Jul 2016
Posts: 2,422
Quote:
Originally Posted by menzies View Post
Good grief. I would strongly advise both your wife and daughter to either close the drapes or be in an appropriate state of dress if they can be seen through a window.

Maybe that is just common sense though.
You can't see into our top deck bedroom/bathroom area from water level, especially from a boat on water level a few hundred metres away - when lying in bed we can't see the water.

I don't expect perverts to do the equivelant of climbing a ladder with a camera to look in - you might find it acceptable, most do not.
Common sense would be don't do it.
Simi 60 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-04-2018, 03:01 PM   #74
Guru
 
angus99's Avatar
 
City: Signal Mtn., TN
Country: US
Vessel Name: Stella Maris
Vessel Model: Defever 44
Join Date: Feb 2012
Posts: 2,308
I like the possibilities that drones, used with restraint, offer but I think regulation is inevitable . . . so I tend to split the baby on this issue. I don’t think anyone sunning themselves nude anywhere has a reasonable expectation of privacy. Airspace, after all, belongs to the public and before there were drones there were helicopters and hot air balloons. But I believe a reasonable right to privacy should exist within someone’s home. If someone has to cross my property line to see inside my windows (whether my shades are open or not) I’d consider it an invasion of privacy and would likely respond proportionally.

I think there should be neither an absolute expectation to privacy nor a right to infringe on others’ reasonable expectations of privacy. I wonder how many proponents of zero regulations on drones would feel about government spying on them . . . either via drones or other physical or cyber technologies? Anyway, drones are yet another challenge to our laws and institutions by technologies unimaginable to the Founding Fathers.

I wish some of our eloquent attorneys would weigh in. In the meantime, here’s a slightly dated discussion on the subject: https://www.economist.com/blogs/demo...es-and-privacy
angus99 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-04-2018, 03:27 PM   #75
Guru
 
Fletcher500's Avatar
 
City: So-Cal
Country: USA
Vessel Model: Helmsman 4304
Join Date: May 2016
Posts: 1,274
Quote:
Originally Posted by Simi 60 View Post
As a full time liveaboard on the hook out here is my world - I try not to follow the goings on of the dirt dwellers or things I have no control over.
I see your point. Sounds like a dirt dwellers conspiracy to me.
Fletcher500 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-04-2018, 04:12 PM   #76
Veteran Member
 
City: Land of Enchantment
Country: USA
Join Date: Nov 2017
Posts: 25
Quote:
Originally Posted by Seevee View Post
What's a "drone locked"?

Never heard of that.
Maybe FlyWright is replying to my comment about DJI? My Phantom is completely legal. DJI is just a horrible company that cripples their old products
thekiltedwonder is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-04-2018, 04:22 PM   #77
TF Site Team
 
FlyWright's Avatar
 
City: California Delta and SF Bay
Country: Sacramento, CA, USA (boat in Vallejo)
Vessel Name: FlyWright
Vessel Model: Marshall Californian 34 LRC
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 12,677
If you google the term, you see hundreds of discussions about the locked drones. I believe it has to do with geo-fencing and software updates to prevent anonymous flights in restricted flight areas.
__________________
My boat is my ark. It's my mobile treehouse and my floating fishing cabin. It's my retreat and my respite. Everyday I thank God I have a boat! -Al

@DeltaBridges - 25 Delta Bridges in 25 Days
FlyWright is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-04-2018, 04:36 PM   #78
Veteran Member
 
City: Land of Enchantment
Country: USA
Join Date: Nov 2017
Posts: 25
Quote:
Originally Posted by FlyWright View Post
If you google the term, you see hundreds of discussions about the locked drones. I believe it has to do with geo-fencing and software updates to prevent anonymous flights in restricted flight areas.
That may happen as well, but that is not the case for me or the problem Ior hudreds of other people have. My Phantom flies fine, but they nuked the camera. There are threads all over the place about that including the one I linked

This has been an ongoing issue for years. Their final few updates to the camera firmware and DJI-Vision app resulted in a blank screen for fpv. You could still fly and the snapshot and video recording functions still work, you just couldn't see what was going on. The last update made it so you couldn't even connect to the camera.
thekiltedwonder is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-04-2018, 06:33 PM   #79
Guru
 
City: Galveston, Texas
Country: U.S.A.
Vessel Model: 24" El Pescador
Join Date: Nov 2014
Posts: 591
Search Results for “drone” – Slowboat

The Slowboat site has some video from PNW-Alaska drone flights
__________________
Ken Diestler
Galveston, Tx
ktdtx is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 01-04-2018, 06:52 PM   #80
Guru
 
ssobol's Avatar
 
City: Leesburg, VA
Country: United States
Join Date: Mar 2015
Posts: 866
In this day and age, personal privacy is a just a distant memory from a simpler time.

If you use any electronic communication device, your location is being tracked and the content transmitted and received recorded (e.g. Google admitted to tracking phone locations even when you had the location services set to off, the police can ping your phone location at anytime and you can't do anything about it except by turning the phone completely off).
If you drive in any built up area, your location is likely tracked and recorded e.g so you pay your tolls electronically via a transponder or toll by plate, police licence plate readers).
If you walk the streets of a modern city, your location can be tracked and recorded (UK cities generally have the highest concentration of cameras for monitoring the public in the world).
If you walk the streets in most residential neighborhoods, your location can be tracked and recorded (by your neighbor's home security system)
Quite a lot of what happens in your house can be monitored via the internet (e.g. hacking the IP cameras in your home security system, or by the internet apps that let you see what your dog is doing).
Anywhere you go in your boat can be monitored and tracked.

Some of this occurs because people want their modern conveniences (like their phone telling them how to get to the closest McDonald's). A lot of it comes from the Patriot Act.

So people who get their knickers in a twist because somebody's multirotor device is near by and might or might not be looking in their direction and could be infringing on their privacy is missing the bigger picture.
__________________

ssobol is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off





All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:57 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 4
Copyright ©2000 - 2020, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0
Copyright 2006 - 2012
×