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12-20-2017, 07:00 PM
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City: Sioux Falls, South Dakota
Vessel Name: Xanadu
Vessel Model: Mainship 37 Motor Yacht
Join Date: Oct 2013
Posts: 2,417
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Originally Posted by FF
"However, be aware that many STATES will scour the list of newly documented vessels and send nasty letters demanding taxes to any with a hailing port in their state...
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Helps to live in a state where 99.998% of state and local officials have never heard of federal boat documentation and have no idea what it is, or what a hailing port might be. 
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12-20-2017, 07:30 PM
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Senior Member
City: Palo Alto
Vessel Name: Ann-Elyse II
Vessel Model: North Pacific 45
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My first boat was a used 1985 Skipjack 25. It didn't come with a name on it and I never named it. When I called the coastguard I used the handle "Skipjack". Since then I have owned 2 more boats, both of which, I named and used a sort of fancy italic font. Maybe some have a hard time reading it. I don't know and I am not going to replace it just incase someone may have a hard time reading it.
Not that Mark doesn't have a valid point. But - the next step would be to control the font that people use. I don't want to go there.
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12-20-2017, 08:12 PM
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#83
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City: Aventura FL
Vessel Name: Kinja
Vessel Model: American Tug 34 #116 2008
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dirtdoc1
My first boat was a used 1985 Skipjack 25. It didn't come with a name on it and I never named it. When I called the coastguard I used the handle "Skipjack". Since then I have owned 2 more boats, both of which, I named and used a sort of fancy italic font. Maybe some have a hard time reading it. I don't know and I am not going to replace it just incase someone may have a hard time reading it.
Not that Mark doesn't have a valid point. But - the next step would be to control the font that people use. I don't want to go there.
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The font and size are defined by USCG, for the stern. Not everyone follows the USCG rules.
Same way with the horn.
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12-20-2017, 08:35 PM
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#84
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City: Powell River, BC
Vessel Name: Northern Spy
Vessel Model: Nordic Tug 26
Join Date: Feb 2012
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OldDan1943
The font and size are defined by USCG, for the stern. Not everyone follows the USCG rules.
Same way with the horn.
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Only for documented vessels.
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12-20-2017, 08:39 PM
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#85
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City: Aventura FL
Vessel Name: Kinja
Vessel Model: American Tug 34 #116 2008
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Northern Spy
Only for documented vessels.
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A yup.
Why would one not to document their vessel?
You get to avoid those hull identification numbers.
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12-20-2017, 08:46 PM
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City: Concrete Washington State
Vessel Name: Willy
Vessel Model: Willard Nomad 30'
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Old Dan,
The hull numbers are a problem? I didn’t know that.
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North Western Washington State USA
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12-20-2017, 09:23 PM
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#87
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Guru
City: Aventura FL
Vessel Name: Kinja
Vessel Model: American Tug 34 #116 2008
Join Date: Oct 2017
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Nomad Willy
Old Dan,
The hull numbers are a problem? I didn’t know that.
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IMO they detract from the beauty of the hull.
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12-20-2017, 09:40 PM
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#88
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Guru
City: Adelaide
Vessel Name: Kokanee
Vessel Model: Cuddles 30 Pilot House Motor Sailer
Join Date: Jul 2012
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OldDan1943
IMO they detract from the beauty of the hull.
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IMO i like a bare stern, but don't mind numbers on the hull.
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12-20-2017, 10:02 PM
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#89
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Guru
City: Aventura FL
Vessel Name: Kinja
Vessel Model: American Tug 34 #116 2008
Join Date: Oct 2017
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Quote:
Originally Posted by AusCan
IMO i like a bare stern, but don't mind numbers on the hull.
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SMILE
We shall go on through live with this one disagreement.
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12-20-2017, 11:08 PM
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#90
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Senior Member
City: Palo Alto
Vessel Name: Ann-Elyse II
Vessel Model: North Pacific 45
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OldDan1943
SMILE
We shall go on through live with this one disagreement.
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Agreed 
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12-20-2017, 11:45 PM
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I have a relative who owns a graphics shop. He can cut anything out of high-performance vinyl and so makes a lot of boat names for customers.
A good rule-of-thumb dimension for boat letter size on a typical transom is that the height of the name letters should be 1/3rd of the dimension from the waterline to the top of the transom. If you have a swim platform, it would take the place of the waterline from a visual perspective. The hailing port letters would be a simpler block font and approx 1/3rd of the name letters.
So let’s say your transom is 30” from the top of the swim platform to the top of the transom: The letters would be (approx) 10” tall. A block letter style (not script) is considered traditional, with or without “serifs” or shadowing. He doesn’t do gold leaf but it’s not uncommon to use for the shadow effect.
Your first reaction might be “That seems too tall”. But when you look at a boat with this letter style and height ratio it looks pretty good.
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12-21-2017, 06:47 AM
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#92
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City: Ft Pierce
Vessel Name: Sold
Vessel Model: Was an Albin/PSN 40
Join Date: Oct 2011
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That is a real "rule of thumb".... my graphics design training, brief as it was, would suggest to me that some name lengths and fonts would heavily influence letter size.... mayve even change the font you were hoping for.
In todays day and age, it is so easy to take a picture of the stern of your boat and then try different styles and sizes of letters with a computer.
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12-22-2017, 11:34 PM
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#93
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Senior Member
City: Palo Alto
Vessel Name: Ann-Elyse II
Vessel Model: North Pacific 45
Join Date: Apr 2016
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There ya go, whether you like it or not!
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12-23-2017, 12:23 AM
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City: Kenai, Alaska
Vessel Name: Melanie Rose
Vessel Model: 1999 Willard PH
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Now you need a dingy on the swim step so no one can read it 
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12-23-2017, 12:56 AM
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#95
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City: Fort Lauderdale. Florida, USA
Join Date: Jan 2014
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dirtdoc1
There ya go, whether you like it or not!
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I'm assuming not documented, in which case you're free to do what you wish. My personal feeling is that if putting a name on, it's best to follow the same rules as for documented vessels. It's attractive and definitely not suggesting you change it. However, I'd suggest two things to others:
1-Follow documentation name rules.
2-Place the name and homeport higher on the stern so they'll be easier to see.
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12-23-2017, 01:09 AM
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#96
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Senior Member
City: Palo Alto
Vessel Name: Ann-Elyse II
Vessel Model: North Pacific 45
Join Date: Apr 2016
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BandB
I'm assuming not documented, in which case you're free to do what you wish. My personal feeling is that if putting a name on, it's best to follow the same rules as for documented vessels. It's attractive and definitely not suggesting you change it. However, I'd suggest two things to others:
1-Follow documentation name rules.
2-Place the name and homeport higher on the stern so they'll be easier to see.
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It's registered with the USCG. If I get boarded and get a ticket then I'll change it. I hope I don't have to cuz I think it's legible and it looks great.
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12-23-2017, 01:15 AM
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City: Palo Alto
Vessel Name: Ann-Elyse II
Vessel Model: North Pacific 45
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Quote:
Originally Posted by AKDoug
Now you need a dingy on the swim step so no one can read it |
LOL, That's a good one!
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12-23-2017, 01:37 AM
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City: Fort Lauderdale. Florida, USA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dirtdoc1
It's registered with the USCG. If I get boarded and get a ticket then I'll change it. I hope I don't have to cuz I think it's legible and it looks great.
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I think you're perfectly legal.
The name and hailing port of a recreational vessel must be marked together on some clearly visible exterior part of the hull. The vessel name of a commercial vessel must also be marked on the port and starboard bow and the vessel name and the hailing port must also be marked on the stern. All markings may be made by any means and materials that result in durable markings and must be at least four inches in height, made in clearly legible letters of the Latin alphabet or Arabic or Roman numerals. The "hailing port" must include both a place and a State, Territory, or possession of in the United States. The state may be abbreviated.
There is no requirement for any specific type of lettering. Only size and legibility.
It's interesting that everyone marks stern but that's not a requirement either.
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12-23-2017, 02:35 AM
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City: ketchikan, Alaska
Vessel Name: 'SLO'~BELLE
Vessel Model: 1978 Marben-27' Flybridge Trawler(extended to 30 feet) Pilothouse Pocket Cruiser[
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BandB
I think you're perfectly legal.
The "hailing port" must include both a place and a State, Territory, or possession of in the United States. The state may be abbreviated.
There is no requirement for any specific type of lettering. Only size and legibility.
It's interesting that everyone marks stern but that's not a requirement either.
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It is assumed you are quoting from a regulation of record. It is interesting to have a long held understanding clarified if this is in fact, a federal regulation. It has been my understanding the hailing port had to have an assigned post office.
No big deal, it would seem a correction to my history.
Regards,
Al-Ketchikan
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12-23-2017, 06:37 AM
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#100
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City: Annapolis
Vessel Name: Ranger
Vessel Model: 58' Sedan Bridge
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Al
It has been my understanding the hailing port had to have an assigned post office.
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Just needs to be an officially recognized "place" and IIRC there's also one (or maybe two) specified reference documents where officially recognized "places" are named. Any "place" in that (or those) document(s) is OK.
No need for post office. (Our "place" is from a circa 1654 colonial settlement, and doesn't have it's own post office.)
-Chris
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