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Old 11-03-2020, 04:18 PM   #1
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Do I have Issues ... or just having fun?

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Serious question.... I am 18~24 months out from transitioning from the working world to the boating-retired. Been fortunate as an investor/saver leaving me with more money than I would have imagined in my younger days. I have traveled the entirety of my career through March of 2020 and maintained a home office for the last 20 years. COVID keeps us business travelers from, you guessed it - business travel, leaving more time on our collective hands. According to plan I sold our primary residence this year (seller’s market in a Pandemic ++) and downsized such that I have a big-boat war chest at the ready. I have owned many boats in my 53 years and learned so much (many times the hard way). I am looking to go (much) bigger then my comfort zone into a liveaboard trawler for at least ½ the year for my wife and I, and hopefully visiting sons. Throughout my life and exponentially more so today I have prepared. I have done my research, attended countless shows, assessed so many prospective boats, kept pictures of those I liked most, subscribe to several boating magazines, visited boat yards, took a class on diesels with Mack Boring, purchased tools, created endless lists, downloaded the latest boating APPS, talked with every boat owner I have encountered, got quoted on insurance for a boat I don’t have, read Trawler Forum daily, worked my finances incessantly and routinely watch at least 10 Youtube videos a day of cruising couples or Ask Captain Chris, or Haulover Inlet, or Bahamas in 4k…all to learn to be a better boater and learn…the life. I have even reached out to existing owners of my favorite vessel to get firsthand impressions/expenses/surrprises of the reality of the brand and what to expect.

This is all I think about and think I may have a problem – Do I? Does anybody know a boat therapist to get me to 2022?
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Old 11-03-2020, 04:34 PM   #2
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Welcome to TF. Yes, you have an issue. It almost sounds like you're over-thinking this and making it all too hard. On the other hand, it may just be you're milking every ounce of pleasure from the whole process. If the latter - then just keep doin' what you're doin'...
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Old 11-03-2020, 04:43 PM   #3
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No. Absolutely not. You don’t have a problem! You are in the enviable position of being fully prepared to fulfill a dream. It would be far worse if you didn’t have this dream to obsess about. Think of the retirees you know that simply assume a little golf, bridge and relaxation will satisfy them for the last third of their time on earth. This formula may work for some, but for many, it leads to boredom, depression and despair.
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Old 11-03-2020, 04:44 PM   #4
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Was amazed that what I thought was important or a potential problem before going cruising wasn’t. And what i thought would be a non issue were the parts that were difficult and problematic.
You will be fine.
When frustrated laugh and say “it’s a boat”.
Remember anything that doesn’t kill you makes you stronger. (And wiser).
When you stop learning they better have thrown dirt in your face...or they soon will.
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Old 11-03-2020, 04:50 PM   #5
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If you have an issue then so do most of us. The best thing to do, IMO, is to look at as many boats that you think will meet your needs/wants. Make a list of must haves, want to have and must not have. As you look at boats refine the lists. A few of our must haves were loose furniture due to bad backs, no ladders due to 85 pound black lab and walk around berth so it is easier to make the bed. We had a bunch more but this will give you an idea as to some of the things on your lists. Have fun looking and don’t wait until the day you want to leave to buy the boat. I would try to get it about a year before so you can fix it up and work out the bugs. Good luck.
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Old 11-03-2020, 05:01 PM   #6
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Greetings,
Mr. F. I think Dr. Sasha is taking new clients...


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Old 11-03-2020, 05:08 PM   #7
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While RT's suggestion has merit Sasha will likely not be covered by insurance and would quickly cost you 50% of your net worth if your wife found out.

I would say you need to talk with a boat broker
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Old 11-03-2020, 05:37 PM   #8
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Everyone has issues. Some just cost more.
Calm down, no rush, no drama, it appears to be a sellers market right now. Stick to your plan.
Boat market should return to normal in a year.
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Old 11-03-2020, 05:51 PM   #9
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My immediate thought is YES you have an issue. There is a perfectly good retirement thread going and you have to start a new one.

Carry on.
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Old 11-03-2020, 06:49 PM   #10
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You're okay. Read what you can, take a few courses for practical experience WITH the 2nd in command. BOTH get training on close quarter handling and navigation.
Haul Over cut is not bad.... nor is the Stuart cut. Just be wise when choosing your passage. It is called "common sense". I am sure there are worse cuts on both coasts.
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Old 11-03-2020, 07:24 PM   #11
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Just curious what size your considering?
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Old 11-04-2020, 08:26 AM   #12
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Just curious what size your considering?
Magna - I have considered between 42' and 55'. Largest boat Ive owned an operated was a 27' Albin Family Cruiser. Today I run a 24' fish boat. My retirement dream boat from about 10 years back was a 44 Nordic Tug with flybridge...Then I saw/considered Full Displacement hulls including Defever, Kady Krogan, Nordhavn, Selene, then shifted to Semi Displacement hulls where I have settled. Looked at Krogan Express, Marlow's, Grand Banks and somewhere in there my favorite .... the Fleming 55. Well engineered and beautiful classic lines.
The jump up scares the living hell out of me!
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Sure you have issues. Welcome to the Issues Forum.
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Greetings,
Mr. F. "The jump up scares the living hell out of me!" Yep. You're well to consider the potential implications of a large(r) vessel BUT at some point you'll have to fish or continue to cut bait. I'm surprised no one has suggested renting a couple of larger vessels.
Take the "missus" and spend a couple of weeks somewhere warm and inviting. Probably better for your overall mental, physical and financial health than Dr. Sasha.
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Old 11-04-2020, 09:11 AM   #15
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Mr. F. "The jump up scares the living hell out of me!" Yep. You're well to consider the potential implications of a large(r) vessel BUT at some point you'll have to fish or continue to cut bait. I'm surprised no one has suggested renting a couple of larger vessels.
Take the "missus" and spend a couple of weeks somewhere warm and inviting. Probably better for your overall mental, physical and financial health than Dr. Sasha.
Great advice and already in the works - Covid permitting...
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Old 11-04-2020, 09:39 AM   #16
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mid 40ft range, 2 staterooms for your newly acquired friends, generator, water maker for those long cruises that will happen, Reverse cycle A/C yes, it does get cold in FL
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Old 11-04-2020, 10:09 AM   #18
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The Albin family cruiser is a great boat and IMO is a perfect intro to trawler-style boating. Did you have a slow 27' or a later model?
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The Albin family cruiser is a great boat and IMO is a perfect intro to trawler-style boating. Did you have a slow 27' or a later model?
Was great boat with my three boys who could all fit (at the time) into the rear cabin. I had a late 80's model with a 160HP Isuzu engine (they used everything). With a wind and tide behind me I can eek out 14 Knots....
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Our backgrounds are similar, I'm 55, two years or so away from a semi retirement. I came from a lifetime spent in fishing boats (still have an 18' flats boat) and moved up into cruising. My wife and I run our own business and I have traveled for work my entire career, at my own expense and to mostly non glamorous places. Even when I visit a cool place for work I am in and out so fast that I get very little feel for it. One night spent in a mid level hotel off of the interstate in one place is pretty much the same as one night spent in any other place. My focus is always on being efficient and getting the most in sales for the least expenditure. It's not a lot of fun, honestly, though it is better than going to a cube every day.



The one thing that sounds different is that we took a step up into bigger boats about 15 years ago. We bought a 1973 36' Gulfstar in 2005, then moved up into our current 2005 Mainship 400 in 2013. For us, that was a good thing that took some of the steepness out of the learning curve.



I was very experienced with smaller boats, I worked for 13 years as a fishing guide (second job) and commercial fished when I was younger. I grew up on the water in Fort Myers where my family had a long string of boats, often two or three at a time. I had enough logged deck time when I got my captain's license in 1998 to bump up to a master's ticket. That said, I still had a lot to learn about bigger boats, their systems and diesel motors.



Maybe you should buy something now, something more manageable, use it for 5 or 6 years and then sell it? Just a thought.
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