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10-15-2014, 08:41 AM
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Dauntless Award
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Diesel Outboards
These LHD series diesel outboards are still my preferred option for a get home engine.
Klaxon Diesel Outboards Features
Also, quite a nice explanation of prop pitch and rake.
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10-15-2014, 09:52 AM
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Senior Member
City: Baltimore
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So how would one (in the US) go about acquiring one? is there a practical way?
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10-15-2014, 11:07 AM
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Technical Guru
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Man those things are loud and crude!!! Watch the vids. That is some primitive stuff.
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10-15-2014, 11:35 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by eseyoung
So how would one (in the US) go about acquiring one? is there a practical way?
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These motors do not comply with the US or EU emissions regs.
In the UK you can ship to the Channel Islands, then re- route to the UK or collect; you will have to pay purchase tax (vat) if you don't have a receipt even if it's classified as second hand when you import it into the uk.
Guess: ship to the Bahamas or Mexico for collection?
Here's a thread about the Runson diesel OB, same make: but there's an ominous silence........ http://www.boatdesign.net/forums/out...ard-50245.html
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10-15-2014, 11:38 AM
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I agree with the "loud and crude" comment. No way I would have one of those on my boat. My 40hp Merc on my Whaler is so quiet you can't hear it idle. At WOT it's noisier, but nowhere near what that 40hp was in the video.
Mama would not be happy with that motor and you know what they say about Mama not being happy.
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1981 Boston Whaler 13'
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10-15-2014, 11:42 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rustybarge
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That's what'd I'd do.
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Nordhavn 47 Hull #12
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10-15-2014, 11:43 AM
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Loud and crude yes but that also means as simple and durable as a hammer.
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10-15-2014, 11:48 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by eseyoung
Loud and crude yes but that also means as simple and durable as a hammer.
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My worry is that the engine is made from an exotic alloy, hence it only weighs 120kg which is the same as a 40hp Merc!!!
Never say exotic alloys and China in the same sentence.
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10-15-2014, 12:32 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Wxx3
These LHD series diesel outboards are still my preferred option for a get home engine.
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I'm not replacing my dingy outboard. This would be an emergency diesel, stored in the ER until needed.
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10-15-2014, 12:34 PM
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How about an Evinrude ETEC Multifuel 30 hp? From their website:
"The first outboard engine ever that's capable of running on multiple fuel types, including kerosene, JP-4, JP-5, JP-8, Jet A and Jet B as well as standard gasoline."
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Irish Lady
1984 Monk 36 Hull #46
Currently in Cape May, NJ
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10-15-2014, 12:49 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by High Wire
How about an Evinrude ETEC Multifuel 30 hp? From their website:
"The first outboard engine ever that's capable of running on multiple fuel types, including kerosene, JP-4, JP-5, JP-8, Jet A and Jet B as well as standard gasoline."
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Good idea...
But Which marinas stock these fuels?
You would need separate tanks to store the fuel....
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10-15-2014, 12:58 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by High Wire
How about an Evinrude ETEC Multifuel 30 hp? From their website:
"The first outboard engine ever that's capable of running on multiple fuel types, including kerosene, JP-4, JP-5, JP-8, Jet A and Jet B as well as standard gasoline."
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But not capable of running on diesel?
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10-15-2014, 01:21 PM
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TF Site Team
City: Jacksonville
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Wxx3
I'm not replacing my dingy outboard. This would be an emergency diesel, stored in the ER until needed.
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Not to be funny, but you're just thinking of a get home engine now?
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10-15-2014, 04:53 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Larry M
Not to be funny, but you're just thinking of a get home engine now?
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Oh yeah you're tying to be cute...but I can enjoy the thought too....
How in the world is anyone going to manhandle even with hoists etc....going to get a 264 pound outboard mounted at sea?
Sure it could be done...but I'll vote for almost anything else permanently mounted and in the long run may not be that much more expensive. If you could add options like a crash pump...it could be way more useful than a diesel outboard in a precarious place susceptible to breaking seas.
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10-15-2014, 05:03 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by psneeld
Oh yeah you're tying to be cute...but I can enjoy the thought too....
How in the world is anyone going to manhandle even with hoists etc....going to get a 264 pound outboard mounted at sea?
Sure it could be done...but I'll vote for almost anything else permanently mounted and in the long run may not be that much more expensive. If you could add options like a crash pump...it could be way more useful than a diesel outboard in a precarious place susceptible to breaking seas.
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..on an extended jacking plate?
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10-15-2014, 08:11 PM
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If you've ever heard a klaxon go off near you, you probably know how it got its name.
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10-16-2014, 01:13 AM
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Master and Commander
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I love the sound of a klaxon horn, but not constantly.
The best part of buying fuel at the Vallejo Municipal Marina is sounding their klaxon to call the attendant. Oooga, oooga, oooga; dive, dive, dive.
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10-16-2014, 04:32 AM
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Due to the demands of a common fuel for UAV and other vehicles by the military , the diesel FUELED outboard will be here soon enough.
IT will burn diesel fuel common rail, direct injection BUT it will have spark , not compression ignition.
This makes the engine no heavier than todays similar outboards but way more complex than a hammer.
The big hassle may be the Air Police demanding urea exhaust treatment.
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10-16-2014, 04:54 AM
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Dauntless Award
City: Wrangell, Alaska
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Larry M
Not to be funny, but you're just thinking of a get home engine now?
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Don't I need it to get home?
Oh, you're right; I don't.
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10-16-2014, 08:30 AM
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Guru
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