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06-10-2014, 05:55 PM
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Guru
City: Campbell River
Vessel Name: Blue Sky
Vessel Model: Nordic Tugs 42 Hull #001
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 1,972
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Our 1995 NT42 came with a number of very full binders c/w relevant/non-relevant info that gave a history of her equipment, original and added. Schematics of the AC & DC systems, although somewhat out of date, were useful starting points.
Good thing, as there were no maintenance or cruising logs whatsoever.
The most interesting binder was a photo album showing the build of Blue Sky. Since she was hull #1 there were also photos of the plugs being created.
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Conrad
Berthed in
Campbell River BC
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06-10-2014, 05:57 PM
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Guru
City: North Carolina for now
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 6,348
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Full big manual and a stack of blue print sized wiring schematics, graving plans, the works. Diamonds and Gold!
And, a list of what your specific boat, that is your hull number, left the factory with. More gold!
Big advantage of buying a Hatteras is they have all this still on microfiche for almost every boat they built.
Plus the spin off off their parts department, Sam's Marine, will register your hull number and be able to tell you exactly what you are looking for. And likely have it or the proper modern replacement. Platinum!
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George
"There's the Right Way, the Wrong Way, and what some guy says he's gotten away with"
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06-10-2014, 06:51 PM
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Guru
City: Sydney
Vessel Name: Sojourn
Vessel Model: Integrity 386
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 13,333
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My 1981 IG36 Europa came with 2 bound volumes from Kong & Halvorsen. General info, maintenance info, engine and gearbox serial numbers, system diagrams, some generic IG specs too. With the Manuals were 2 Lehman instruction books, including exploded diagrams showing individual parts and part numbers. I thank the POs for preserving these useful and valuable resource materials.
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BruceK
2005 Integrity 386 "Sojourn"
Sydney Australia
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06-10-2014, 06:52 PM
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Senior Member
City: Anchor Pointe, Ohio
Vessel Name: Sea Moose
Vessel Model: 1976 34' D/C Taiwanese Trawler
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 360
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None of the sailboats I've owned had manuals. The GB32 woodie had an awesome manual in a binder with gold lettering, really classy. The marine trader, a smelly box of manuals for stuff that was no longer on the boat - the smell of wood rot and holding tank all.the manuals has was in alignment with the price. The 86 Bayliner "beater boat" came with a manual - same manual for every model they built that year.
The cutest manual I have seen is the one that came with a friends late sixties era pacemaker, complete with a section for "the wife" (how to clean everything) and ten pages of factory photos assuring the owner that the thing was built like a tank - which it is...
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06-10-2014, 08:06 PM
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Guru
City: Tri Cities, WA
Join Date: Nov 2012
Posts: 4,406
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My boat came with about a 10" tall stack of manuals for everything on the boat plus a binder from Sea Ray with a lot of good information about the boat including wiring and plumbing schematics and a drawing of where every piece of gear in the engine room and lazarette are. Great stuff that I refer to frequently to learn the boat.
I also have most of the manuals for the equipment on the boat in .pdf format on my Kindle. I keep that at home in case I need to refer to it.
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1981 Boston Whaler 13'
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06-11-2014, 08:59 PM
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Guru
City: SF Bay Area
Vessel Model: Tollycraft 34' Tri Cabin
Join Date: Feb 2011
Posts: 12,569
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Quote:
Originally Posted by markpierce
It continues to be a learning experience for me.
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Mark - Are you saying your boat purchased new came without owners manuals???
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06-11-2014, 10:19 PM
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Master and Commander
City: Vallejo CA
Vessel Name: Carquinez Coot
Vessel Model: penultimate Seahorse Marine Coot hull #6
Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 12,559
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Art
Mark - Are you saying your boat purchased new came without owners manuals???
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It came with manufacturers' manuals/instructions for most components, such as engine, thruster, toilet, and so on. Also with some builder's drawings and schematics.
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06-11-2014, 10:26 PM
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Guru
City: SF Bay Area
Vessel Model: Tollycraft 34' Tri Cabin
Join Date: Feb 2011
Posts: 12,569
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Quote:
Originally Posted by markpierce
It came with manufacturers' manuals/instructions for most components, such as engine, thruster, toilet, and so on. Also with some builder's drawings and schematics.
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I must have misunderstood a post of yours...
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06-11-2014, 10:53 PM
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Master and Commander
City: Vallejo CA
Vessel Name: Carquinez Coot
Vessel Model: penultimate Seahorse Marine Coot hull #6
Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 12,559
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Art
I must have misunderstood a post of yours...
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No information on the location of thru-hulls, what switch controls the engine-room lights, existence/purpose of hidden electrical switches in the hanging closet, which valves to adjust to use fuel-polishing pump to prime the engine, and such.
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06-11-2014, 11:05 PM
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Guru
City: South FL
Vessel Name: Oliver
Vessel Model: Nordhavn 47 Hull# 12
Join Date: Apr 2013
Posts: 3,607
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Ours came with a 3inch binder that explains and goes over all the systems on the boat.
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Thanks, Oliver
M/V Oliver
Nordhavn 47 Hull #12
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06-12-2014, 11:53 AM
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Guru
City: Everett, WA
Vessel Name: Honey Badger
Vessel Model: 42' CHB Europa
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 784
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The original owner of our boat built a very extensive owner's manual that I'm in the process of updating now. It was all hand-typed with polaroid pictures for illustrations. I'm in the process of updating it and making it an electronic document now.
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06-12-2014, 12:37 PM
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Guru
City: Annapolis
Vessel Name: Ranger
Vessel Model: 58' Sedan Bridge
Join Date: Aug 2013
Posts: 7,088
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Ours came with a decent owner's manual, generic prose about how to work each system, and also including electrical schematics, thru-hull discharge locations, etc. Plus Engine manuals, and genset manuals -- both motor, and generator unit. (Not engine service manuals; I bought those separately.) That was all augmented with a stack of manuals/literature from the manufacturer of every system in the boat (ACs, charger, cooktop, etc etc etc). Well-organized, brand-marked satchel, etc.
-Chris
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06-12-2014, 05:56 PM
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Guru
City: Flattop Islands
Vessel Name: Blackfish
Vessel Model: custom
Join Date: Dec 2012
Posts: 724
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Today I think all boats should come with a really good manual. There's no reason not to.
I believe the manual that all others should be judged by is that for the Albin 25, written by her designer Per Brohall.
It includes almost all the info pertinent to owning, operating, and caring for the boat. There's real stability data, info on construction, handling and mooring, and basic sailing detections for the motorsailer version. Frankly, if all builders provided owner's with an equivalent manual, there would be fewer insurance claims, dumb stunts, and expensive mistakes all around.
http://www.albin25.eu/_download/albin25manual.pdf
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06-12-2014, 07:06 PM
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Guru
City: SF Bay Area
Vessel Model: Tollycraft 34' Tri Cabin
Join Date: Feb 2011
Posts: 12,569
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Tad
That 1972 Albin manual is really nicely done! TY for link. Way more complete than the original one that came with our 1977 Tolly... although it is OK too. Though most items had paper when we purchased; I've gathered other necessary papers or web folder inserts for all items aboad.
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06-12-2014, 07:10 PM
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Guru
City: Tuckerton, NJ
Vessel Name: WIRELESS ONE
Vessel Model: 36 Gulstar MarkII
Join Date: Mar 2011
Posts: 938
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I'll admit that Albin 25 manual covered everything, great job by them.
Bill
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06-13-2014, 10:21 PM
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Veteran Member
City: Houston
Vessel Name: Cast Off
Vessel Model: 1984 hunter 34
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 46
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Mine came with one binder.Everything crammed in since 1984.Even orginal sales color brochure.I have since broke it all down and expanded.Each booklet or manuals are in plastic sleeves.Some of it maybe overkill,but works for me.
Sent from my Galaxy SIII using speech to text.so some words may not be perfect.but it's easier.
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06-14-2014, 06:43 AM
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Guru
City: Miami
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 800
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Only had one w/o a manual. Current boat has two shelves full.
Via iPhone.
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Via iOS.
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06-14-2014, 06:51 AM
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Guru
City: Ft Pierce
Vessel Name: Sold
Vessel Model: Was an Albin/PSN 40
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 28,150
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While a pretty manual with safety tips and pictures of things I can see anyway may impress some...the manuals I prefer have the routing of the actual wire plumbing runs, parts lists with sizes of fittings (really rare), how specialty items with trim, multiple layers/parts come apart....you know....stuff that helps me BEFORE ripping off panels and crawling around and poking in impossible spots to fit while tracing runs,....etc.
Thankfully in recent years...used boats without much at least have forums and manuals on-line to help...probably help just as much as the newer more complete manuals as few owner's manuals are ever complete or written for tech level maintenance.
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06-14-2014, 03:56 PM
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#39
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Guru
City: gulf coast
Join Date: Jun 2014
Posts: 3,440
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Carver came with extensive parts list,wiring and plumbing diagrams through hull and calving locations data sheets on all pumps, heads electrical equipment andultiple engine and transmission manuals. Pretty compete iMO
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06-14-2014, 04:09 PM
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#40
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Guru
City: Hotel, CA
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 8,323
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bayview
Carver came with extensive parts list,wiring and plumbing diagrams through hull and calving locations data sheets on all pumps, heads electrical equipment andultiple engine and transmission manuals. Pretty compete iMO
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This is the second time I've heard about Carver manuals being very complete. Nice to hear.
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It's easier to fool people than to convince them that they've been fooled - Mark Twain
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