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Old 02-08-2019, 07:15 AM   #161
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Fish, I have restrained myself from posting this the last couple of times you mentioned it. But can't anymore.

Are you seriously suggesting that calling recreational boats trawlers, is an insult to those who died working on commercial trawlers?

It seems that you are, repetitively.

Sorry, that's bunkum IMO.
I'm not "suggesting" anything, I'm actually saying something and you've simply misunderstood it. I certainly don't take the use of the word "trawler" applied to pleasure boats as an insult. An oversimplified clarification would perhaps be that I don't care about the words usage but the two forms here are not the same thing for reasons I don't expect most to understand. I'm sorry that this is disturbing to some, especially as I don't know why, that's an issue they'll have to address themselves.
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Seems misunderstanding is simply where the point of reference is....because there is no right or wrong here.
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Old 02-08-2019, 09:33 AM   #163
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Seems misunderstanding is simply where the point of reference is....because there is no absolute here.
So where's your point of reference? I'm happy to work with that.
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Old 02-08-2019, 10:02 AM   #164
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Words/Titles

They are used for the process of designating and/or differentiating circumstances when comparing one item to another and recognizing one item from another.

Therein the word[s]/title[s] gain a definable position, a moniker if you will.

Some times the word[s] used are directly consistent with what an item actually accomplishes - i.e. Working Trawlers trawled nets for catching seafood. Pleasure Boats took people on fun cruises. Speed Boats went fast to win races. Tug Boats tugged ships and other things into placements. Yacht used to be for sailing boats only.

Times change, peoples' tastes alter for word use/definition. Advertising works wonders to twist precepts of one word/title to have it's previous meaning morph into another meaning. i.e. the word Trawler now being readily affixed to what used be called Pleasure Boats or Criusers.

Does it really matter - not too much. I still call vessels "Pleasure Boats" such as is often the case for boats belonging to members of TF. That's because I was brought up on and around the water using that moniker in mid 20th Century. I'm sure persons younger, who were first introduced to pleasure boats having the term trawler affixed will always feel comfortable calling their boats a "Trawler". Does it really matter - not too much - at all!!

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Words/Titles

They are used for the process of designating and/or differentiating circumstances when comparing one item to another and recognizing one item from another.

Therein the word[s]/title[s] gain a definable position, a moniker if you will.

Some times the word[s] used are directly consistent with what an item actually accomplishes - i.e. Working Trawlers trawled nets for catching seafood. Pleasure Boats took people on fun cruises. Speed Boats went fast to win races. Tug Boats tugged ships and other things into placements. Yacht used to be for sailing boats only.

Times change, peoples' tastes alter for word use/definition. Advertising works wonders to twist precepts of one word/title to have it's previous meaning morph into another meaning. i.e. the word Trawler now being readily affixed to what used be called Pleasure Boats or Criusers.

Does it really matter - not too much. I still call vessels "Pleasure Boats" such as is often the case for boats belonging to members of TF. That's because I was brought up on and around the water using that moniker in mid 20th Century. I'm sure persons younger, who were first introduced to pleasure boats having the term trawler affixed will always feel comfortable calling their boats a "Trawler". Does it really matter - not too much - at all!!

It's just a word, and like you said to those who's experience with the word "trawler" is as a pleasure boat are comfortable with it in that context, as am I. As I'm feeling a bit misunderstood and at risk of marginalizing myself on here (probably on a few dozen ignore lists by now) I'll stop trying to explain and deal with my issues on my own because there's no need to unload them here.
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Old 02-08-2019, 11:08 AM   #167
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It's just a word, and like you said to those who's experience with the word "trawler" is as a pleasure boat are comfortable with it in that context, as am I. As I'm feeling a bit misunderstood and at risk of marginalizing myself on here (probably on a few dozen ignore lists by now) I'll stop trying to explain and deal with my issues on my own because there's no need to unload them here.
You know Fish, if someone bought a commercial trawler, and rebuilt it as a personal cruiser, then technically it would no longer be a trawler anymore anyway.

Personally I used to get all worked up when someone called my boat a "yacht" which was too pretentious for me.
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You know Fish, if someone bought a commercial trawler, and rebuilt it as a personal cruiser, then technically it would no longer be a trawler anymore anyway.

Personally I used to get all worked up when someone called my boat a "yacht" which was too pretentious for me.
Whoa, careful, to imply that it may be inappropriate to call a pleasure boat a trawler can result in blurred vision and unexplained headaches.
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Whoa, careful, to imply that it may be inappropriate to call a pleasure boat a trawler can result in blurred vision and unexplained headaches.
He didn't actually say that.
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Mr. 53. "...blurred vision and unexplained headaches." You mean it's NOT the daily tot (usually less than a gallon) of rum? Who knew?





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He didn't actually say that.
You're undoubtedly right, I have no idea where I got the idea " technically it would no longer be a trawler", not that I actually care. I can probably just use some help with what "imply" means.
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Mr. 53. "...blurred vision and unexplained headaches." You mean it's NOT the daily tot (usually less than a gallon) of rum? Who knew?





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Have you ever noticed that those who need the dulling effects of rum most are usually the ones that it has the least effect on? Why is that?
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Mr. 53. "...blurred vision and unexplained headaches." You mean it's NOT the daily tot (usually less than a gallon) of rum? Who knew?





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Too many "snowflakes" here??!! LOL
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Too many "snowflakes" here??!! LOL
Well I thought I tried to elevate the conversation, FD,SD, PDF and LSMFT were starting to get confusing.
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Well I thought I tried to elevate the conversation, FD,SD, PDF and LSMFT were starting to get confusing.
Current POTUS - talk about confusing!
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Current POTUS - talk about confusing!
Well it wasn't as confusing as POTUS, or as excruciating.
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Just to keep this rolling, there are many SD vessels that are great and proven blue water vessels. It would be a tough call to say a FD Nordhavn 64 is a better blue water vessel than a SD Fleming 65.
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