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12-18-2016, 01:52 AM
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Veteran Member
City: Easton, MD
Join Date: Dec 2016
Posts: 35
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CPseudonym
...and how warm and dry is the pilothouse of your sailboat?
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Good point. It's not.
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12-18-2016, 02:27 AM
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#202
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Guru
City: Sarasota/Ft. Lauderdale
Join Date: Apr 2014
Posts: 5,438
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Quote:
Originally Posted by kmacdonald
I think a real sailboat would be the better option. I'm an aging sailor that is considering a trawler but I am starting to think motoring my sailboat more may be the best option. On long passages there is little sail handling especially in the trade winds so sailing is not a problem. A sailboat is as efficient or more so than a FD trawler. A sailboat has the sailing redundancy. A sailboat is much more seaworthy. A sailboat has infinite range. For long range cruising, sailing is a more cost effective mode of propulsion.
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I don't think anyone here is trying to compare sailboats to trawlers with kites.
It's just a thought exercise as to how one might move a trawler down wind in the event you run out of fuel or your engine dies and you have no backup.
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12-18-2016, 03:01 AM
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#203
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Guru
City: Sydney
Join Date: Jul 2015
Posts: 1,646
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Capt.Bill11
I don't think anyone here is trying to compare sailboats to trawlers with kites.
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Could a Fisher 42' be the ideal long distance boat ? I think so
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12-18-2016, 09:24 AM
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#204
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Veteran Member
City: Palma
Join Date: Nov 2012
Posts: 79
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If only the OP knew, does he? and got a centime..
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12-18-2016, 10:17 AM
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#205
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Guru
City: San Diego
Vessel Name: Circuit Breaker
Vessel Model: 2021..22' Duffy Cuddy cabin
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 6,691
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CPseudonym
...and how warm and dry is the pilothouse of your sailboat?
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Done with diesel power boats! Have fallen in love with all electric!
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12-18-2016, 10:43 AM
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#206
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Guru
City: Fort Lauderdale. Florida, USA
Join Date: Jan 2014
Posts: 21,451
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Quote:
Originally Posted by gaston
Could a Fisher 42' be the ideal long distance boat ? I think so
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Wifey B:  Not for me, no way. 
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12-18-2016, 10:51 AM
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#207
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Enigma
City: Slicker?
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 15,429
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Greetings,
How about back to Dauntless as suggested in post #197 please.
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RTF
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12-18-2016, 10:55 AM
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#208
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Veteran Member
City: Easton, MD
Join Date: Dec 2016
Posts: 35
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RT Firefly
Greetings,
How about back to Dauntless as suggested in post #197 please.
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What's Dauntless?
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12-18-2016, 11:18 AM
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#209
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Guru
City: Port Townsend
Vessel Name: The Promise
Vessel Model: Roughwater 35
Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 1,568
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RT Firefly
Greetings,
How about back to Dauntless as suggested in post #197 please.
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Amen.
Looks like he's progressing nicely with regular updates.
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12-18-2016, 11:30 AM
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#210
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Guru
City: st pete
Vessel Model: 430 Mainship
Join Date: Sep 2016
Posts: 3,378
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Folks,
I really enjoy this post, following Richard in his venture. And my hats off to him as this requires a fair amount of skills.
I have a friend who is just purchasing a 55ft cat sailboat with two engines, so he can sail and motor... and he's goal next year is to head off to live on the boat and travel the world. I'm sure he'll learn from folks like Richard.
My single biggest worry with this kind of venture would be the weather. Looks like he has already been challenged with significant waves and winds. I'm amazed at how one can interpret the weather with limited or no stations and only satellite info.
Richard: Hats off to you!
This would not be in my bucket list, but sure looks like fun.
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12-18-2016, 12:03 PM
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#211
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Guru
City: Sarasota/Ft. Lauderdale
Join Date: Apr 2014
Posts: 5,438
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RT Firefly
Greetings,
How about back to Dauntless as suggested in post #197 please.
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Relax, it's just gap filler between the brief "all is well reports". 
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12-18-2016, 12:05 PM
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#212
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Guru
City: Quebec
Vessel Name: Bleuvet
Vessel Model: Custom Built
Join Date: Jan 2016
Posts: 4,277
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Our friend Richard is half way to destination. Looks like he will respect the planned timeline.
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12-18-2016, 12:12 PM
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#213
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Guru
City: Sarasota/Ft. Lauderdale
Join Date: Apr 2014
Posts: 5,438
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Lou_tribal
Our friend Richard is half way to destination. Looks like he will respect the planned timeline.
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You say that as if he is the one in total control of that.
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12-18-2016, 12:17 PM
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#214
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Technical Guru
City: Wilmington, NC
Vessel Name: Louisa
Vessel Model: Custom Built 38
Join Date: Jan 2014
Posts: 6,194
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Lou- you challenged us on guessing his 7day fuel burn. Do you know what the real number is?
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12-18-2016, 01:06 PM
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#215
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Guru
City: Fort Lauderdale. Florida, USA
Join Date: Jan 2014
Posts: 21,451
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ski in NC
Lou- you challenged us on guessing his 7day fuel burn. Do you know what the real number is?
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The better question is does Richard know....
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12-18-2016, 01:06 PM
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#216
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Guru
City: Quebec
Vessel Name: Bleuvet
Vessel Model: Custom Built
Join Date: Jan 2016
Posts: 4,277
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Some fresh news from Richard:
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Today, has become one of the worst days in terms of rolling.
Winds were very strong out of the NE all night, but have now gone easterly.
That leaves us with 10-12' waves predominantly, many 15' every min and the occasional 20'.
Because the winds have been SE thru NE last 7 days, we have similar seas. So most waves are behind, a good portion are 30° off stern, causing 20° rolls.
2016 Atlantic Passage Day 09
Distance 137nm
24h average speed 5.72kts
Wx Sct Cu 7+ 1022 78° 59° 80° 08024g33
Rpms cont at 1500
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Ski regarding the real fuel burn for the 7 first days, no clue yet, stay tuned!
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12-18-2016, 01:20 PM
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#217
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Guru
City: Port Townsend
Vessel Name: The Promise
Vessel Model: Roughwater 35
Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 1,568
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Here you go.
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12-18-2016, 02:07 PM
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#218
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Member
City: Dives-sur-mer
Vessel Name: Balder VIII
Vessel Model: north sea trawler 57'
Join Date: Apr 2016
Posts: 21
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Quote:
Originally Posted by gaston
Could a Fisher 42' be the ideal long distance boat ? I think so
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You are absolutely right. I owned during 12 years this kind of motorsailer built for me in 1990 by Northshore Yachts Yard in South of England ( the first one with a white hull). Fantastic boat, hand made, high quality built. I had a Ford Lehman Sabre and furling sails, long keel, very comfortable. From Cape Verde to Barbados, 13 days ( and night), rough sea...Of course, in light winds and beam seas, she is rolling as a pig... ( a gentle pig!). I miss this yacht still afloat in Spain.I think the company is closed now. I saw one of these Fishers in British Colombia. An older version had a small aft cabin instead of the cockpit. As well, a 46' model has been produced.I think this is the only yacht in GRP which doesn't make me afraid about OFNIS, the hull is very thick.
About the Richard's passage, chapeau bas! I remember when I did it, it was in march ( too late in the season) with the same kind of waves and winds.But I was younger...
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12-18-2016, 02:56 PM
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#219
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Guru
City: Quebec
Vessel Name: Bleuvet
Vessel Model: Custom Built
Join Date: Jan 2016
Posts: 4,277
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Especially for Ski who cannot wait knowing if he was right about fuel, here are some news from Richard about his fuel burn:
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Would need to check after 14 days for better accuracy.
Yesterday, end Day 9 I've used 140 to 0 150 gal BUT I'm reading a sight tube that is occulted with roll.
About sight tubes. Go from feed to about 5" below top of tank Therefore I don't know what's in tank until it gets down to 280 gal of the 350 max.
Thus, my first fuel usage came after 9 days. 70 gal below full in each tank. So that's 140g/9days= 15.6 gal /day.
Tanks are diff shapes, thus* sight tube on starboard tank is 2" longer. So this trip I've changed tanks every 24hr. So I compute use for each tank. The fact that use came within* 0.01g/hr confirms it. While much lower than expected, (I'd expected 1.3/g, hoped for 1.1 or 1.2) It's also confirmed be on 2014 crossing,* sight tubes became useful after the 5th day and by the end of the 9th day, I'd used 400 gal! Vice 150
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12-18-2016, 05:32 PM
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#220
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Technical Guru
City: Wilmington, NC
Vessel Name: Louisa
Vessel Model: Custom Built 38
Join Date: Jan 2014
Posts: 6,194
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Looks like a win for CPS.
CPS guessed 130 gal at day 7.
I guessed 150 at day 7.
Richard is estimating 140-150 at day nine.
Sounds like he has some good margin in fuel load.
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