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Old 12-18-2016, 01:52 AM   #201
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...and how warm and dry is the pilothouse of your sailboat?
Good point. It's not.
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I think a real sailboat would be the better option. I'm an aging sailor that is considering a trawler but I am starting to think motoring my sailboat more may be the best option. On long passages there is little sail handling especially in the trade winds so sailing is not a problem. A sailboat is as efficient or more so than a FD trawler. A sailboat has the sailing redundancy. A sailboat is much more seaworthy. A sailboat has infinite range. For long range cruising, sailing is a more cost effective mode of propulsion.
I don't think anyone here is trying to compare sailboats to trawlers with kites.

It's just a thought exercise as to how one might move a trawler down wind in the event you run out of fuel or your engine dies and you have no backup.
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I don't think anyone here is trying to compare sailboats to trawlers with kites.

Could a Fisher 42' be the ideal long distance boat ? I think so

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If only the OP knew, does he? and got a centime..
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...and how warm and dry is the pilothouse of your sailboat?
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Old 12-18-2016, 10:43 AM   #206
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Could a Fisher 42' be the ideal long distance boat ? I think so
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Old 12-18-2016, 10:51 AM   #207
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Greetings,
How about back to Dauntless as suggested in post #197 please.
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Old 12-18-2016, 10:55 AM   #208
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How about back to Dauntless as suggested in post #197 please.
What's Dauntless?
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Old 12-18-2016, 11:18 AM   #209
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How about back to Dauntless as suggested in post #197 please.
Amen.

Looks like he's progressing nicely with regular updates.
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Old 12-18-2016, 11:30 AM   #210
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Folks,

I really enjoy this post, following Richard in his venture. And my hats off to him as this requires a fair amount of skills.

I have a friend who is just purchasing a 55ft cat sailboat with two engines, so he can sail and motor... and he's goal next year is to head off to live on the boat and travel the world. I'm sure he'll learn from folks like Richard.

My single biggest worry with this kind of venture would be the weather. Looks like he has already been challenged with significant waves and winds. I'm amazed at how one can interpret the weather with limited or no stations and only satellite info.

Richard: Hats off to you!

This would not be in my bucket list, but sure looks like fun.
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How about back to Dauntless as suggested in post #197 please.
Relax, it's just gap filler between the brief "all is well reports".
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Our friend Richard is half way to destination. Looks like he will respect the planned timeline.
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Old 12-18-2016, 12:12 PM   #213
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Our friend Richard is half way to destination. Looks like he will respect the planned timeline.
You say that as if he is the one in total control of that.
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Old 12-18-2016, 12:17 PM   #214
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Lou- you challenged us on guessing his 7day fuel burn. Do you know what the real number is?
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Lou- you challenged us on guessing his 7day fuel burn. Do you know what the real number is?
The better question is does Richard know....
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Some fresh news from Richard:

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Today, has become one of the worst days in terms of rolling.
Winds were very strong out of the NE all night, but have now gone easterly.
That leaves us with 10-12' waves predominantly, many 15' every min and the occasional 20'.
Because the winds have been SE thru NE last 7 days, we have similar seas. So most waves are behind, a good portion are 30° off stern, causing 20° rolls.

2016 Atlantic Passage Day 09
Distance 137nm
24h average speed 5.72kts
Wx Sct Cu 7+ 1022 78° 59° 80° 08024g33

Rpms cont at 1500
Ski regarding the real fuel burn for the 7 first days, no clue yet, stay tuned!
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Could a Fisher 42' be the ideal long distance boat ? I think so

You are absolutely right. I owned during 12 years this kind of motorsailer built for me in 1990 by Northshore Yachts Yard in South of England ( the first one with a white hull). Fantastic boat, hand made, high quality built. I had a Ford Lehman Sabre and furling sails, long keel, very comfortable. From Cape Verde to Barbados, 13 days ( and night), rough sea...Of course, in light winds and beam seas, she is rolling as a pig... ( a gentle pig!). I miss this yacht still afloat in Spain.I think the company is closed now. I saw one of these Fishers in British Colombia. An older version had a small aft cabin instead of the cockpit. As well, a 46' model has been produced.I think this is the only yacht in GRP which doesn't make me afraid about OFNIS, the hull is very thick.

About the Richard's passage, chapeau bas! I remember when I did it, it was in march ( too late in the season) with the same kind of waves and winds.But I was younger...
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Especially for Ski who cannot wait knowing if he was right about fuel, here are some news from Richard about his fuel burn:

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Would need to check after 14 days for better accuracy.
Yesterday, end Day 9 I've used 140 to 0 150 gal BUT I'm reading a sight tube that is occulted with roll.
About sight tubes. Go from feed to about 5" below top of tank Therefore I don't know what's in tank until it gets down to 280 gal of the 350 max.
Thus, my first fuel usage came after 9 days. 70 gal below full in each tank. So that's 140g/9days= 15.6 gal /day.
Tanks are diff shapes, thus* sight tube on starboard tank is 2" longer. So this trip I've changed tanks every 24hr. So I compute use for each tank. The fact that use came within* 0.01g/hr confirms it. While much lower than expected, (I'd expected 1.3/g, hoped for 1.1 or 1.2) It's also confirmed be on 2014 crossing,* sight tubes became useful after the 5th day and by the end of the 9th day, I'd used 400 gal! Vice 150
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Looks like a win for CPS.

CPS guessed 130 gal at day 7.

I guessed 150 at day 7.

Richard is estimating 140-150 at day nine.

Sounds like he has some good margin in fuel load.
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