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12-21-2013, 08:01 PM
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A curious vessel...
Saw this boat in Oceanside, CA and did a documentation search. It was built by a Chilean sailing catamaran company. The company is called Alwoplast and is run under German management. Even though the vessel has a pilothouse, there are sailboat winches mounted on the quarters.
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12-22-2013, 05:38 AM
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there are sailboat winches mounted on the quarters.
As they should be to assist in docking.(Probably on most boats)
A light high windage boat is easily blown about so some easy way to pull 500 or 1500 lbs is a great idea.
Ranks right up there with large cleats that can handle more than a single line.
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12-22-2013, 12:07 PM
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City: Concrete Washington State
Vessel Name: Willy
Vessel Model: Willard Nomad 30'
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FF beause the cat hulls are so narrow they are deep as well. As there is much less windage on this boat than a lot of oxygen tent trawlers and less than many FB trawlers too. I doubt if it's a problem.
Must be a lonely life for the helmsman stuck up there in that tower.
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North Western Washington State USA
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12-22-2013, 02:14 PM
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City: Southern Maine
Vessel Model: Prairie 36 Coastal Cruiser
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Quote:
Originally Posted by manyboats
... oxygen tent trawlers ...
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I learned a new saying today! Thanks!
I guess my flybridge is pretty much an oxygen tent. I do open it up when the weather is good. Of course, where I am, that's not often.
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12-22-2013, 03:43 PM
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City: Concrete Washington State
Vessel Name: Willy
Vessel Model: Willard Nomad 30'
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FF coined that one. He's been using that expression and others for years. I would be afraid to say something like that worrying about offending someone. I seem to do it anyway but FFs the master of cutesy talk. He calls a Taiwan Trawler a Taiwan Tub and that's one I don't care for. But yea I like the oxygen tent ...... just the expression not the thing itself.
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12-22-2013, 05:24 PM
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City: Brisbane
Vessel Model: 49ft 11inch catamaran-trawler
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Quote:
Originally Posted by manyboats
FF beause the cat hulls are so narrow they are deep as well.
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Define deep.
Most cats both power and sail of this style would probably draw around 800mm (32 inches)
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12-23-2013, 06:20 AM
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>FF beause the cat hulls are so narrow they are deep as well.<
The most efficient , lowest wetted surface comes from a semi circle , so the depth will usually be 1/2 the hull beam .
If the boat is deeper , it is probably home designed or overloaded , both dangerous .
If a cat is to perform well enough to get some advantage, it needs to be like an aircraft , well designed , superbly built and kept to a VERY strict weight limit.
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12-23-2013, 12:04 PM
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City: Longboat Key, FL
Vessel Name: Bucky
Vessel Model: Krogen Manatee 36 North Sea
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Yeah, I remember that boat was for sale some years ago (maybe a sister boat). I looked back in my archives and found the original Yachtworld ad. Strange though....no mention of the draft. According to the ad, it was built as a sport-fisher, and used price was 340K. It looks almost identical to the sail version.
Specs:
Builder: Alwoplast Designer: Crowther MK II
Engines: Yanmar 4JH2 UTE HP. 100 each
Max. Speed: 16 Kts. Cruise Speed: 12 Kts.
Length: 45 Ft. Beam: 23’ 3”
Displacement: 36,000 Fuel: 174
Water: 150 Holding: 2 X 26
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"When life gets hard, eat marshmallows”.
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12-23-2013, 12:41 PM
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City: Longboat Key, FL
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Here's a shot of the sail version.
I think Alwoplast had a 50 or so powercat at the Miami Show once....very impressive. I think Crowther also designed the Barbara Mae, a beefy 50-60 ft. or so powercat that struck me as one of the nicest designs yet. If I had the money to throw at a new Cat build, Alwoplast would be in the running.
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"When life gets hard, eat marshmallows”.
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12-24-2013, 09:23 AM
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City: Thibodaux, Louisiana
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They could have carried the pilot house back a few more feet, cut a hole in the helm seat and let it do double duty as the head. Bombs away, into the wake! Just like in the old days.
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12-24-2013, 10:23 AM
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> Bombs away, into the wake! Just like in the old days.<
In the real OLD DAYS the head rope was fwd so the crew could stand on the chains holding the bow sprit in place.
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12-24-2013, 11:37 AM
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City: Longboat Key, FL
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Steve
They could have carried the pilot house back a few more feet, cut a hole in the helm seat and let it do double duty as the head. Bombs away, into the wake! Just like in the old days.
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Not exactly a new idea, you know.
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"When life gets hard, eat marshmallows”.
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12-24-2013, 01:09 PM
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City: Campbell River
Vessel Name: Blue Sky
Vessel Model: Nordic Tugs 42 Hull #001
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Quote:
Originally Posted by healhustler
Not exactly a new idea, you know.
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I suppose if you lowered yourself - gently - using the block & tackle provided, it could serve as a bidet as well.
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12-24-2013, 01:18 PM
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I wonder what the best TP would be for that.
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12-24-2013, 01:32 PM
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City: South FL
Vessel Name: Oliver
Vessel Model: Nordhavn 47 Hull# 12
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Quote:
Originally Posted by hmason
I wonder what the best TP would be for that.
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Don't even start......
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M/V Oliver
Nordhavn 47 Hull #12
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12-24-2013, 05:37 PM
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City: St. Lucie VILLAGE -NOT- Port St. Lucie!!!!!
Vessel Model: 15' Hobie Power Skiff w/90hp Yamaha-owned 28 years. Also a 2001 Bayliner 3788 that I took in trade
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Steve
They could have carried the pilot house back a few more feet, cut a hole in the helm seat and let it do double duty as the head. Bombs away, into the wake! Just like in the old days.
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That's funny! I literally laughed out loud!
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12-24-2013, 05:38 PM
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City: St. Lucie VILLAGE -NOT- Port St. Lucie!!!!!
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Quote:
Originally Posted by healhustler
Not exactly a new idea, you know.
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That's a photo of a French owned boat right?
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12-24-2013, 10:16 PM
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Now we know why it's called the "poop deck."
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12-25-2013, 03:10 AM
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City: Cruising East Coast US
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What do I say when someone asks me to list their boat with one of these someday 
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Esse Quam Videri
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12-25-2013, 03:43 AM
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City: Campbell River
Vessel Name: Blue Sky
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Daddyo
What do I say when someone asks me to list their boat with one of these someday |
You could either say it has an alfresco head or simply state that it has lots of headroom...
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