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09-26-2013, 09:52 PM
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09-27-2013, 12:17 AM
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Originally Posted by BruceK
Great Aussie win, following the spirit of Australia 2 doing exactly the same thing,coming from behind when all seemed hopeless, on the very same day in 1983. Except we don`t get to take the Cup home.
I think Australia 2 is in a museum in Australia.Anyone recall which?
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Maritime Museum in Fremantle I think Bruce - pretty sure she was there when we visitied in 2005 anyway.
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09-27-2013, 12:59 AM
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What's this "thing" about Australian sailors? My theory is that Australians are 30 years behind the USA socially, and while the USA has declined, the Aussies are still on the rise.
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09-28-2013, 04:26 AM
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>My theory is that Australians are 30 years behind the USA socially,<
You mean they still allow FREE SPEECH down under?
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09-28-2013, 04:39 AM
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We don't consider ourselves behind anyone. Not that we are necessarily in front, - just that we aren't following.
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09-28-2013, 07:15 AM
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Originally Posted by markpierce
What's this "thing" about Australian sailors? My theory is that Australians are 30 years behind the USA socially, and while the USA has declined, the Aussies are still on the rise.
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Yes, Mark, you might want to re-think that theory...
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09-28-2013, 08:42 AM
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IMHO, Americans could learn quite a bit from the Kiwis and Aussies socially, myself included.
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09-28-2013, 10:13 AM
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Athena gets around, here it was in Papeete last year.
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09-28-2013, 05:36 PM
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Hey Rick,
I wonder how often they actually sail her.
Do you know what power she has installed.
Cheers
Benn
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09-28-2013, 06:42 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tidahapah
Hey Rick,
I wonder how often they actually sail her.
Do you know what power she has installed.
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You would be surprised Benn....She was first to finish (not really a surprise, longest waterline) in the SuperYacht Cup racing that went on before the AC started. And during racing I saw her out under sail a few times. These big boats get around, but mostly she will be motorsailing without the owner aboard. They were up here (in BC) in early July. Now I would guess she'll be off for winter in the Med or South Pacific perhaps.
She's big, just short of 200' on the waterline with 40' beam, displacement about 1150 tons. Power is twin Cats, 3516B's putting out 2000HP at 1600 RPM, 3.4:1 red turning 1600mm dia variable pitch props. She also has 3 main Cat generators of 340KW each (plus an emergency gen of 97KW) and carries 100,000 l of fuel. Bow and stern thrusters are 275HP each.
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09-29-2013, 05:17 AM
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Tad,
That is the same power I have in my tug at work.
A pair of 3516 Bs but mine drive Z pellers and I only have 2 x 100 HP gen sets.
I have come down in the world but harbour tugging sure has it's benefits.
Thanks for the info.
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Benn
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09-30-2013, 07:53 PM
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This should make our Aussie folks happy. KJ
Australian vintner challenges US for America's Cup
SYDNEY (AFP) – Australian winemaker Bob Oatley and his Hamilton Island Yacht Club will officially contest Oracle Team USA at the next America's Cup, it was announced Tuesday.
"We are delighted to have Hamilton Island Yacht Club and the Oatleys leading Australia back into the America's Cup for the first time since 2000," said America's Cup liaison Tom Ehman in a statement.
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09-30-2013, 10:05 PM
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Great news. Funny it has not appeared on the Aus news at all. Just typical...too distracted by their beloved Rugby League and Aussie Rules Footy finals at present I guess...
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09-30-2013, 10:24 PM
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Mate
It's been all over the TV today , interviews with Bob Oatley and his old man.
In the news papers everywhere.
If we can get past the post and then win it imagine the challenge after that being in the Whitsundays, wow fantastic
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Benn
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09-30-2013, 10:26 PM
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Peter, The Challenge was announced today in Australia.
Bob Oatley was reported as looking forward to a contest on Sydney Harbour. He`ll need to win it in USA before that happens.
It`s a long while since the AC contest was held in "Freo" (Fremantle) Western Australia near Perth. Sydney Harbour would be a great place for it, but that`s looking a long way ahead.
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09-30-2013, 11:45 PM
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I think you Aussies better slow down on picking venues, that cup will be safely in our possession for some time to come. 
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10-01-2013, 01:06 AM
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And it's highly possible, that, after they recover from the shock, the Kiwis might just have something to say about where else it might go as well, don't you thunk..?
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10-01-2013, 01:18 AM
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It`s all just "wishing and hoping", until someone wrests the Cup out of the vice like grip of the Americans no one gets to choose.
What year is the next battle? What contests it? Quadmarans? Where`s healhustler when we need him?
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10-02-2013, 02:13 AM
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A letter in a Sydney newspaper suggests Oracle save a heap on crew airfares by staging the next series in Australia, most of their crew are already in Australia.
If I could make sense of markpierce`s post 23 I`d respond. I can`t.
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10-02-2013, 07:04 AM
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My son tells me the UK press is abuzz with the fact Oracles sudden significant speed increase, (apart from a Brit being the replacement tactician, that is), was due to the fact during that postponement they called after 3 straight losses, they fitted a gyroscopic stabiliser, which helped it keep up on the foils much better, especially upwind. Apparently it is not in the rules as allowable, but because never foreseen, (rather like when big bad Dennis defended with a cat against a monohull), it was not specifically excluded either, so technically they had to allow it. I guess it went in that rather bloated pod thing that hung below the mast base. The TNZ boat would have had nowhere to put one, or they could have done the same I guess.
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