Couple Swamped by wake

[psneeld]

Gotta love a "general" topic that gets blasted for specifics then a specific topic that people argue generalities....

Gotta love being here...I keep saying "more time on projects...more productive"

[SCOTTEDAVIS]

Originally Posted by Nsail

The photo was posted with no text. Maybe the poster would take exception with you assuming what he was implying with the photo.

Perhaps he intended to post a picture of the moon.

Not going to play that game, it was clear.

[SCOTTEDAVIS]

Originally Posted by psneeld

I kayak, have a dingy and small boat fish too....so I can relate.

No one said the guy wasn't legal.... and hurting him or his property wasn't illegal....

What I am saying and some others might be too is that taking small craft into some (and not the vast majority of) areas and staying to fish or otherwise is not only foolish but rude to other boaters in the big scheme of things...despite their "rights"...

Not going to disagree, you have seen your share of foolishness yet you will still go out of your way to help.

You are a professional, as a USCG license holder holder myself I strive to be as professional as I can as well. I respect everyone's right to fun and safety on the water and can remember well the days when I sailed my 8ft pram as proudly and safely as I could at the tender age of 8.

I looked up then as now to age and experience on the water, realizing how lucky we few are to enjoy the quality of our endeavors. I know we here can encourage and lookout for one and other regardless of the size of our boats.

I cringe at the selfish and me first attitude I see today both on the water as well as on the roads (I ride long distance motorcycle challenges...IBA - World's Toughest Motorcycle Riders) scary sometimes.

{walks off.......carrying his soapbox, to be put away}

[Nsail]

Without text it wasn't clear at all. He could have been on either side of the fence.

[markpierce]

Originally Posted by Nsail

The photo was posted with no text. Maybe the poster would take exception with you assuming what he was implying with the photo.

It was intended for personal/individual interpretation.

[THD]

I find it somewhat ironic that when I went to this thread this morning, the banner ad at the top was for "wakemakers.com". They apparently sell ballast tanks for your small boat to make bigger wakes for wakeboarding. Not too many hwere looking to make bigger wakes!

[psneeld]

Originally Posted by THD

I find it somewhat ironic that when I went to this thread this morning, the banner ad at the top was for "wakemakers.com". They apparently sell ballast tanks for your small boat to make bigger wakes for wakeboarding. Not too many hwere looking to make bigger wakes!

had the same chuckle....

[Codger2]

Originally Posted by Nsail

The photo was posted with no text. Maybe the poster would take exception with you assuming what he was implying with the photo.

Yeh, right! I'm sure mark was just pointing out how exceptional the bass fishing is up there and chose the wake thread to express this. This is not meant to denigrate the Coot's captain (who I like) but rather to point out that inferences in the English language are not always spelled out, but they are there!

[psneeld]

Originally Posted by Nsail

The photo was posted with no text. Maybe the poster would take exception with you assuming what he was implying with the photo.

Don't worry...I understood.

And even mark said it was posted for "It was intended for personal/individual interpretation. ".....

[Nsail]

Mark,

Are you really anti-fishing boat, as they're implying? This would be a big surprise to me. But, I've been surprised before.

And for what it's worth, I have a small fishing boat also, and don't get dangerously waked as I stay away from those areas.

[markpierce]

Originally Posted by Nsail

Mark,

Are you really anti-fishing boat, as they're implying? This would be a big surprise to me. But, I've been surprised before..

No. See post #9.

[BruceK]

Originally Posted by SCOTTEDAVIS

He is fishing an inland shore and is in a craft that I would expect to see in that location. If he is not a hindrance to navigation and is operating within the law and regulation he is owed the same respect as a 50 battle-wagon on the open ocean or a 35+ foot trawler cruising the channel, the same.

I has an old salt instructor one day said to me when I was moaning about the little guys, "remember unless you are very special then you are a little guy to someone and have the same rights as anyone else".

Second part? True. "Do unto others.."
The first? The fisherman is owed respect (in terms of not being exposed to avoidable danger by others) whether or not "within the law and regulation". You can`t pretend he is not there because he should not be there, and swamp him.

[psneeld]

I am amazed ...this conversation comes up so many times and so many people seem to miss the point.

It's not about it being OK to wake the guy...it's about crowded waterways and little guys insisting in trying to occupy the limited space the bigger guys need to operate and operate as something other than a big trawler. Even if they clearly are not.

The little guys can go any place...the big guys can't...so to me it's as much about respect allowing big guys to run free in very limited waterways and allowing the little guys their space when and where appropriate.

I usually don't see that happening so I have become jaded through the years...little boats have forced me out of the channel and actually refuse to give an inch even when I am towing. Hard to give respect when you don't get any. Often it's a resentful "those rich guys in their big toys" mentality so the war rages on.

I know there are plenty of big boat knuckleheads and jerks too...but the vast majority (just sheer numbers) are little boaters without a clue to the bigger picture. Fortunately once explained to them...they tend to get it and are much better "boating buddies" than before.

[Art]

OK - So now let's get to the crux of the situation... irrespective of comfort or discomfort from any size boat being waked by any other sized boat!

Who here has the contact point (USCG maybe?) to find how many persons were injured or died in a boat of which they were aboard due to wake effect in each of the last few years?

The rest of what's being discussed here is boating semantics, on several levels. On the water wakes happen - Period!