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Old 07-31-2018, 11:35 PM   #21
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I love machines. I will lay in my nursing home bed, hopefully many years from now, knowing I enjoyed lots of adventures. Cars, camper vans, many motorcycles, a hovercraft, an ATV, a snowmobile, an airplane, and of course boats. They were all fun and we continue to have fun.

I think John likes to manage the build process, and he probably appreciates all the attention to detail as a result. I am glad John shares his adventures with us here. I won't have the experience of building a boat in the near term. John will have some good stories at the nursing home.

It's also great for the industry to have guys like John bringing these boats to life, and moving them into the market place. I have never bought a new boat, and without those like John I wouldn't have much to pick from on the brokerage market, or a strong support industry.

Thanks John.
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Old 08-01-2018, 06:53 AM   #22
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Change is good!

Every boater that stops in my marina for the evening, weekend, whatever, walks the docks. Ya know, kinda like boat porn?

With that said, I love boats. I love my boat. I love different boats for different reasons.

I’m always on the lookout with a “must have” list.
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Old 08-01-2018, 11:10 AM   #23
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Change is good!

Every boater that stops in my marina for the evening, weekend, whatever, walks the docks. Ya know, kinda like boat porn?

With that said, I love boats. I love my boat. I love different boats for different reasons.

Iím always on the lookout with a ďmust haveĒ list.
Wifey B: Cars are not exciting. Not even my Porsche. Well, maybe it is a little bit but i have no desire to look at the next car or anything like that.

Boats though are a love affair, well many love affairs. When it comes to boats, I'm very polyamorous. We're always like "what boat would we want if we decided to replace this one." Doesn't mean we're ready to or will ever, but means we'll always be looking at what's coming into the boat market. We see new models and think about what we like and don't like about them. We pout because they don't make one or more of our boats any more and that makes us wonder if we replaced it what. Could we get this one and would it be faster or is this one more spacious or this one have better bow seating or this one have lower air draft for the loop. Every boat out there from an 8' RIB to a 170' boat interests us. Larger than that we don't understand as they're too much like cruise ships or hotels or something but don't make us tingle with excitement.

Even boats we'd never want interest us. Don't want a slow boat but still want to know what KK and Nordhavn are up to. Will look and think "freaking cool" or "WTF?" but just enjoy looking and thinking.

Every boat is a compromise so we think of what compromise we made and does this new one out not force that but then what is it's compromise. Like 1604N we like the process of detailing and building a new boat. Find the right builder and it's fun. Wrong builder is horrific but we've avoided that.

None of that ever means we're not happy with the one we have. Most people here drool about other boats sometimes, even labeled it Boat Porn. Then some of us who drool, actually then build. Why not, if that's what we enjoy?

4061 is such a thoughtful builder, I'm anxious to read his next. We can all learn from following his decision process and his building. Even when it's not the boat for us or for those of you who have no desire to build, the way he thinks and compares and stuff can give you ideas. That's like Bruce and Dorsey with their disdain for Microwaves, I still liked seeing what they used the space for. Might make some others who don't use a microwave think.

We'll be thinking of future boats as long as we can. Just last night we were looking at Cigarette's as we talked fast boats with someone. Now we have no desire to own one, might like running one for a weekend. However, we found the Cigarette AMG Electric very interesting with 12 engines for a total of over 2000 hp. We won't get it, but might we one day get an electric boat? Who knows? I sure don't. I've just finished two hours in a fun Children's Museum.
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I love machines. I will lay in my nursing home bed, hopefully many years from now, knowing I enjoyed lots of adventures. Cars, camper vans, many motorcycles, a hovercraft, an ATV, a snowmobile, an airplane, and of course boats. They were all fun and we continue to have fun.



I think John likes to manage the build process, and he probably appreciates all the attention to detail as a result. I am glad John shares his adventures with us here. I won't have the experience of building a boat in the near term. John will have some good stories at the nursing home.



It's also great for the industry to have guys like John bringing these boats to life, and moving them into the market place. I have never bought a new boat, and without those like John I wouldn't have much to pick from on the brokerage market, or a strong support industry.



Thanks John.


Very well said!

(Nice when another TFíer can articulate what I canít)
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Old 08-01-2018, 08:27 PM   #25
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Wifey B: Cars are not exciting. Not even my Porsche. Well, maybe it is a little bit but i have no desire to look at the next car or anything like that.



4061 is such a thoughtful builder, I'm anxious to read his next. We can all learn from following his decision process and his building. Even when it's not the boat for us or for those of you who have no desire to build, the way he thinks and compares and stuff can give you ideas. That's like Bruce and Dorsey with their disdain for Microwaves, I still liked seeing what they used the space for. Might make some others who don't use a microwave think.

Other than the blasphemy that cars arenít exciting, WifeyB is another that has articulated what I canít. Thank you.
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If you are not excited driving a Porsche hum well how to say it... Maybe you don't know what's driving mean hum? Sell it and buy a minivan.
No offense but...

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If you are not excited driving a Porsche hum well how to say it... Maybe you don't know what's driving mean hum? Sell it and buy a minivan.
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So right Lou. Having sold my boat, my trusty car, I'm still lovin' after nearly 28 years is my rock I turn back to. We have also just been through the process of choosing everything - and I mean everything, down to the last light switch, for a new build retirement home, and thoroughly enjoyed the process because we have a great build company to work with, (hence the boat sale). This experience allows me to understand those who just can't help planning their next boat, even before their last one is barely run in.
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Old 08-01-2018, 09:32 PM   #28
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So right Lou. Having sold my boat, my trusty car, I'm still lovin' after nearly 28 years is my rock I turn back to. We have also just been through the process of choosing everything - and I mean everything, down to the last light switch, for a new build retirement home, and thoroughly enjoyed the process because we have a great build company to work with, (hence the boat sale). This experience allows me to understand those who just can't help planning their next boat, even before their last one is barely run in.
Your neighborhood looks very nice!

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Old 08-01-2018, 10:39 PM   #29
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Three Nordhavns and a Helmsman and now something new. I have enjoyed the posts and following the progress. Keep it up John. Must be time for a Margarita. Oh, I waited too long for my first Porsche, but it was a great 70th BD present to myself.
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Old 08-03-2018, 08:32 PM   #31
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So today I found myself talking about boats with a friend at work and his plans to build a boat for the ICW and possible run to islands off Florida. He has been on our boat and both he and his wife love beam to length ratio on (one of largest available) and our open salon layout. He recently took a trip on a cat and enjoyed its beamy accommodations. He was asking all the right questions and getting close to building "his" boat. Before long we were talking about "what I would do different on our boat (not much)" and how he should outfit his boat. By the time we were done I think I may have just helped Scott with another order��. Time will tell. The most compelling argument my friend has was "this is the best value of any new boat I have seen" (sound familiar)?

The real take away from our discussion for me was "wait" what am i doing? I built likely the best boat I could ask for and I'm thinking about something else? Why couldn't we make this boat work for its new mission? If not for the fun of building something new (and driving Scott crazy - again) we likely could make Maria Elena work fine. Time will tell but for now I feel even better about our options - all new design or should I say it, another H38E or ?

Fun stuff that keeps me up at night...
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The real take away from our discussion for me was "wait" what am i doing? I built likely the best boat I could ask for and I'm thinking about something else? Why couldn't we make this boat work for its new mission? If not for the fun of building something new (and driving Scott crazy - again) we likely could make Maria Elena work fine. Time will tell but for now I feel even better about our options - all new design or should I say it, another H38E or ?

Fun stuff that keeps me up at night...
My standard answer when people ask why I am always looking at boats, or attending boat shows - Is that we boat owners are unfaithful lovers. Always with an eye out for another pretty girl; another exciting adventure. That said, Iíve been contemplating selling my 390 and going back to sailing. It has been four years.

I really enjoyed watching Johns last build via this forum. I appreciated his ďKISSĒ principles. The Helmsman was a delight to see in person and also met John, his wife, and little puppy. I wish them well in whatever direction this heads.
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As I mentioned in my original post, boating plans are at best written in the sand at low tide, they change. While we are still committed to building "one more boat" the dang tariff fight with China is causing some headaches' not originally forecasted. Only good thing is that we are not in a rush and have time to see how this plays out. Mary and I did decide the H43 is likely not going to make our cut (great boat) so we are down two. More to follow soon......
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I like boats and have owned a few over the years but I donít enjoy buying a new boat and then getting it ready for me to enjoy. My enjoyment comes from owning the perfect boat and not having to improve it (might happen one day).
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As I mentioned in my original post, boating plans are at best written in the sand at low tide, they change. While we are still committed to building "one more boat" the dang tariff fight with China is causing some headaches' not originally forecasted. Only good thing is that we are not in a rush and have time to see how this plays out. Mary and I did decide the H43 is likely not going to make our cut (great boat) so we are down two. More to follow soon......
N4061, quick question.

Are you in marketing?

Maybe, marine marketing?
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