Cardude in Harvey bullseye

[cardude01]

Good luck Baker. Stay safe.

[twistedtree]

Yes, Irene cause enormous damage to upstate New York and Vermont, all due to rain. It was largely a non-event along the coast, but laid waste to inland areas.

[ranger58sb]

Originally Posted by Baker

My rhetorical question to you is...Have you ever seen a major hurricane cause extensive damage that is caused by RAIN????

If I understand your question correctly...

I think most of the damage from Sandy -- downgraded to TS when it made landfall in NJ -- was from rain and storm surge, not so much directly from high winds.

I think...

Good luck to all our Texas folks...

-Chris

[kev_rm]

Already Cat 3

Aug 25
21:00 GMT
27.5°
-96.5°
125 mph 941 mb
Hurricane
3

[sbu22]

But, then again, Sandy was a "superstorm". We just have run of the mill hurricanes down here on the third coast.

Best to our Texas friends and neighbors.

[healhustler]

Baker: already seeing lots of tornado warnings inyour area. If this thing does what they are predicting, you're liable to see the center of this thing next week. "Feet" of rain is something hard to conceive. Hope those bilge pumps are working.

[Baker]

Originally Posted by sbu22

Beg to disagree, Baker. This looks somewhat like TS Allison (2001) to me. Allison demonstrated rain can do a lot of damage. Harvey has more significant wind, but also has the potential for Allison's precip - 37" in 6 days in Houston. At least Ike kept moving. If Harvey stalls, as predicted, Htown and environs could be in for some rough sledding.

What exactly are you disagreeing with?

I think you may have misunderstood me. I said you tell me a MAJOR HURRICANE that has dumped shitloads of rain ANYWHERE in this country in history. This is NOTHING like TS Allison. TS Allison came ashore on a Tuesday as a minor tropical storm with 40mph winds. It went up into East Texas and then came back down to Houston on Friday/Saturday as a subtropical system. Subtropical systems have a tendency to meander. Major Hurricanes do not....or at least they never have in anything I can remember. Maybe you can enlighten me on one that has? I am not saying this one is not gonna smash us with rain. I am just saying a Major Hurricane never has. Weak systems have. That was my point. ANd with that, the models may not be correct. Just a sneaking suspicion on my part. I am likely very wrong.

[Baker]

Originally Posted by ranger42c

If I understand your question correctly...

I think most of the damage from Sandy -- downgraded to TS when it made landfall in NJ -- was from rain and storm surge, not so much directly from high winds.

I think...

Good luck to all our Texas folks...

-Chris

It was not rain. Sandy was storm surge! The highest total was 12 inches. Fairly significant but not what caused the damage....of course that could be argued but I am arguing...

[Baker]

Originally Posted by sbu22

But, then again, Sandy was a "superstorm". We just have run of the mill hurricanes down here on the third coast.

It was a "superstorm" simply because of where it hit.

[Baker]

Originally Posted by twistedtree

Yes, Irene cause enormous damage to upstate New York and Vermont, all due to rain. It was largely a non-event along the coast, but laid waste to inland areas.

Again...proving my point. The rain is not an issue until it becomes subtropical. And there is a reason....

[Baker]

Originally Posted by cardude01

Good luck Baker. Stay safe.

THanks amigo!!! You too!!! Port O'connor is gonna get BLASTED!!!!

[BandB]

Originally Posted by Baker

What exactly are you disagreeing with?

I think you may have misunderstood me. I said you tell me a MAJOR HURRICANE that has dumped shitloads of rain ANYWHERE in this country in history. This is NOTHING like TS Allison. TS Allison came ashore on a Tuesday as a minor tropical storm with 40mph winds. It went up into East Texas and then came back down to Houston on Friday/Saturday as a subtropical system. Subtropical systems have a tendency to meander. Major Hurricanes do not....or at least they never have in anything I can remember. Maybe you can enlighten me on one that has? I am not saying this one is not gonna smash us with rain. I am just saying a Major Hurricane never has. Weak systems have. That was my point.

Beulah, 1967
Camille, 1969
Georges, 1998
Easy, 1950

[LarryM]

On July 25, 1979, TS Claudette arrived in Alvin, TX and stalled, dropping 43 inches over the next 24 hours. That amount still stands as the greatest one-day rainfall in the United States, according to the National Weather Service. I can't even imagine what kind of damage that would do today to Houston and the surrounding area.

I really hope "Baker's Theory" that John mentioned holds true this time around. Like him, my boat with its generator, air conditioning and galley is a backup plan, but I have to be able to get to it. Both our boats are kept in a marina well known as a 'hurricane hole' so not worried at all about wind, but during Ike, the parking lot was well under water for a while.

Just a solid stream of tornado and weather warnings now as the bands begin to pound our part of the Texas coast. They could go on for days depending on the path of the storm. Yikes.

Here we go.

[BandB]

Beulah was very much in the same area but far stronger. Let's hope this one isn't similar as Beulah also spawned a record number of tornadoes.

[FoxtrotCharlie]

Be careful TX folks - its always the storm/water surge, not so much the winds. Been there done that. Prayers your way!

[Baker]

Originally Posted by LarryM

On July 25, 1979, TS Claudette arrived in Alvin, TX and stalled, dropping 43 inches over the next 24 hours. That amount still stands as the greatest one-day rainfall in the United States, according to the National Weather Service. I can't even imagine what kind of damage that would do today to Houston and the surrounding area.

Here we go.

Again....a tropical storm...

[LarryM]

Originally Posted by Baker

Again....a tropical storm...

Exactly.

[BandB]

I'm amazed at watching television and Corpus Christi, with eye of storm 31 miles away, and all the traffic, all the people just driving around like it's a normal day and reporter having a hard time standing up.

[BandB]

Originally Posted by Baker

Again....a tropical storm...

The ones I mentioned were all CAT 3-CAT 5. Granted all were before I was born.

[BandB]

Just became a CAT 4.